“Obviously we cannot accept behaviour like that where people are hunted down in that way and are asked questions in that way about their own identity, because it takes us back to the apartheid way of doing things,” Ramaphosa said on Saturday.
“We are now in a democracy and we should be very restrained and respectful of the rights of people in our country.” Ramaphosa was speaking to journalists before a presidential imbizo in Bloemfontein, and was asked about reports of police allegedly stopping foreign nationals and asking them to produce proof of their identity.
Social-views:I do not like it..but then again..pls explain how they should go about it..should they book a big-table at the restaurant or a conference hall or declare a special public holiday for undocumented foreigners to present themselves or host a webnar?
He saying this because his son is married in Uganda..has link with foreign nationals but he must not use this to compromise the county he leads..and the constitution he contributed...I m so disappointed..
But he condones Gumede election.. mmm..
So our president has a problem with the police doing their job?
Can he please go
Hurts to say this but apartheid was better. Trains ran, roads were proper some are still standing till today, people had jobs, borders were secure, as unjust as it was but there was law. Apartheid was so good even Ramaphosa was awarded for helping apartheid police
Look👀 who is talkin
Apartheid means 'seperatness'.. Isn't that what Dudula wants?
Firstly he was shocked... Then electioneering... Now condemning.. Hypocrite!
Well we condem the fact it isn't done at the border post.
Nothing wrong checking an Immigrant about passport we are in the UK we are stopped and asked about our status in foreign countries.
he must condem himself for protecting his looter comrades
See PresidencyZA you have made a mistake here. This should not come from the media. This should have been a phonecall between you and Cele. Cele will then implement
What about the bogus cops doing the patrols around jozi town and demanding bribes from helpless foreigners?
This thing of xikonkolo must end ,this thing of identifying a black person like a baboon must end ,this is Africa not Asia people must unite and conquer
Is he blaming apartheid again
VoetsekANC KryVirJulle . reality is ex-terrorists never received training in how to properly run a country. - THE END -
True, police should not take orders from thugs such as dudula
Yesterday in NW de other Zimbos beaten 2 death 4 jamming cars signals lock
We won't listen 2 Cyril de Nigga n his cabinet including all politicians dey dnt hv ant plan at all..
Thina we condemning him being a coward president who can’t stand up for his voters
Useless president, passports are asked in every country.
Ramapalony must we hand over our country because ur scared of mnangwangwa,behavior? Stupid president don't forget we don't take instruction from you,so what must be don't seens ur scare to deport them?
Useless ramapupput straight you hate citizens.
Then he must cancel the carrying of driving license when driving too
Problem here is a reactionary President, not a Policeman who erred in an attempt to enforce the rule of law. President will always play into the hands of Journos and their agenda cos he’s not apprised of issues ezidlumuzi. My question still stands, who advises the President ?
I'm still surprised as to y he has not visited the areas and arrest the situation and reassure citizens as a president. Thats not a good way to lead. No wonder y crime is rife and corruption is out of hand. U must lead from the front
We will never fix anything in this country with ANC.... Tsek
Ohhh yerrr, we are being led agh nie fok
What's wrong with asking for documents, even in USA they asked me for my passport and visa?
We want the police to do their job, we want illegal foreign criminals out. Apply the Law.
The man is nuts.He must go to russia for treatment.
They are only carrying out their duties according to the law President Ramaphosa.
Did EFF not do that too when they marched to restaurants?
Pls carry yo documents if u r not south african we do that in yo countries or will dudula u
He should fire his guy then... He said the police have the right to ask for IDs... I am confused 🇿🇦🙈
ramaPuppet. Let him leave the police & Commissioner & minister & home affairs to do their work.
Our leaders must speak with action not only words
This man is deliberately destroying the ANC ayikho into enje.
U think we care
Remember what Cyril said when he was canvassing for our votes. Today he is preaching a different gospel. Like Malema he is such a flip-flopper its sickening. When I hear his voice I just want to crawl out of my skin. Thank God I saw thru him and I did not vote for him
When you know, you know.
I used to respect this man thinking ppl are disrespectful to him. Now I understand what goes around comes around. He is disrespectful to the SA citizen
Abramjee Is he a South African
Police got the right to ask a foreigner his or her papers in any country why don't he go and be president in those countries that cause he care more about none South Africans a clear sign
Ixoki
Majestic
Defender of amakwerekwere 2, after Julius & Eff
All the political parties are against South Africans, they are in favor of the foreigners, the painful thing is tomorrow they expect the very same South Africans to vote for them into power.
He talking alone . that's why they always failed to help citizen.the fail to control boarders . let's the community & police do their job
To hell with Ramaphosa
Really but he's planning an Apartheid style of leadership with covid passport and the new health legislation such a hypocrite
I condemn the racist nga pres
Your president doesn't respect our constitution. Cyril is not a constitution.
President awuzame ukuphuma kulomqondo okuwo uyalithengisa izwe lethu baba wonke umuntu ukhala ngawe why Mr!
Hi MbalulaFikile Please issue a statement and tell all traffic officers not to ask our drivers licenses because that’s “apartheid style” according to your boss Thanks
Ixhoki uRamaphosa he will sell for any amount this one . The authorities are doing their job.
Leave the police to do their work, they also get traumatised by what they see everyday when callec to a scene of crime perpetuated by these foreigners
Why...why? When often are we stopped and asked to produce a drivers license!!
I am goinot to try it next time stopped by the cops and say ' the president says I don't need to ID myself because it is apartheid scheme to ID yourself.' How fucking stupid can you be.
Does that mean that I don't have to produce my ID or driver's license when asked to? For apartheid reasons obviously and I don't want to feel oppressed. FokkofANC VoetsekANC 🤡🤡🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
JackD157 It’s obvious that CR doesn’t understand the laws of this country. Maybe it’s the fact the the ANC has no regard for our legislation that makes him react like this? VoetseANC
JackD157 What's wrong with that? we get asked to produce our drivers licenses? We need to identify these illegal immigrant criminals
Has anybody asked Malema for his dompas.
That's the problem with copy and paste 'journalism'.if you had listened to him, he was questioning the conduct of police for using language to identify illegal immigrants. Please verify what you're writing.
Lol...he slams in public but somewhere behind closed he's in agreement Dnt trust everything he says We don't learn mara yazi
Abramjee SA immigration Act
Why not extend them a written invitation and while you're at it accommodate the thieving bastards in Spier Estate?
SAPS are doing their job. To be honest Apartheid saved South Africa from Africa /Foreigners. In South Africa there is Not president. CyrilRamaphosa MYANC The country is on auto pilot. My prayers are for South Africans to Vote Out Anc.
No Mr President stop talking KAK and STOP with this Apartheid word. It makes me want to kots in my own mouth! They should have their documents on them at all times. They are foreigners or did you just happened to forget that!!! Stop talking KAK and do your job!!!!!!
Bla bla bla....
Why? You & your government are not in control.
There wouldn't be this problem if government, home affairs officials and border guards weren't such a bunch of corrupt rseholes. I wonder what all of them have in common.
Ramaphosa is not the rule of law. He's just an individual who happened to be elected the president of the country. The law will still be here when his failure of presidency ends.
He ordered a hit squad to Marikana mine workers like how the apartheid government did now he wants to tell us how to deal with illegal foreigners 😂
Not everything was bad about apartheid and he knows it...he is where he is cos of being an apartheid beneficiary...so he should spare us those bull eish indecisive talk on this one...Aeron & Cele got this
I lived in Ghana for a year, I had to walk around with my non citizen ID, it is checked by immigration police regularly. Nothing wrong with this approach.
All over the world, no matter which country, documents are requested from foreign nationals to check that they are not over staying, so why must South African citizens pay tax to support foreigners here? SA citizens cant go to other African countries & just stay there!
Cyril is talkiNg shit
Article does not make sense. First mentions police asking for documentation, then says a group of residents when door to door looking for foreigners and asking for ID. Which is it?
Why is he trying to act all holy? There is immigration law which needs to be abided by. If you are not from here you need to abide and produce documents when asked.
The president is failing to understand meaning of ID, hence his statement. very disappointed by his statement
E.g. u won't be allowed to enter any legislature in SA without ID so president is misleading the nation just to satisfy foreign nationals in our country.
CyrilRamaphosa PresidencyZA if you condemn this approach then how should the police identify illegal foreigners in the country ?
We really need a president in SA
SA is a septic tank indeed as said by someone
Word is that Mnangagwa wants them back home to go sort out their differences 🤨
All other countries do it. Including Russia and the US. They seek out illegals and deport them. Why is SA different to ALL other countries.
Uyanya lo president
How can cyril ramaphosa condemn 'police's apartheid style' while sponsoring OperationDudula
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The whole President unttering these words we are real in trouble as SAns
We are lead by fools a whole president doesn't know the laws of South Africa those police officials did nothing wrong
Minister of police shud be sorting this out
He mustn't condemn , he must instruct. Doesn't he know he is the president?
He doesn't understand the Law of the republic. Someone please wakeup this Sleeping leader. This is not time to make ur investors happy with the blood of south Africans. The life of South Africans matter in their own country and they must be protected.
Is this guy really our President?🤔
CyrilRamaphosa Laws are repealed if you happen not to agree with them Ntate Ramaphosa. There's procedure. Even as the number 1 citizen, you don't go around denouncing the country's laws at will. You setting a wrong precedent. You condoning lawlessness.
We will do it ourselves.
Apartheid government was not wrong it's part of verification process even in other countries they do the same you can't enter in America illegally they wil arrest you so what is wrong when the same is done in safrica
Bloody Snake!
Which style should they employ, we know you have to impress the people who made you a billionaire and a president at our expense. Every country in the world has immigration laws to be respected and adhered to
South Africa is just a portion of Africa. We can't accommodate every African, Pakistan, Chinese or European etc. If we want to unite African countries to be one country, it fine. But the reality is that South Africa has rules and limited resources. Any illegal action is crime.
Cupcake lives in wonderland. He hasn't got a clue what ordinary people on the ground face at the hands of illegal immigrants on a daily basis. If Diepsloot residents feel it's a necessary approach to take, let them have their wish. They are backed by the law
.....so how does He reckon police check for illegal foreigners without asking for papers?
This idiot is far removed from reality than I initially thought. How else do you confirm whether someone is legal or not if not by checking documentation? Yes, I don't agree with asking people to name certain body parts or things in certain languages as that proves nothing.
Police are doing the right thing of which ts something should have done it long time ago with the department of home affairs to make sure those undocumented leave the country
The head of state just condoning and not actively taking action
Cyril has something in Zimbabwe. He’s protecting his interests. Police are allowed to ask foreigners for their documentation. Kante what’s happening that we don’t know that it seems Zimbabweans are so special in South Africa? Cyril Ramaphosa must be taken down!!!
Mara this round head is empty neh hayi maan!
We Slam the 'apartheid style' of poverty... Even the apartheid regime better than the ANC
Does he have any better ideas
Ramaphosa always go where de wind is going...He doesn't hav de confidence of Motsoaledi...
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Ramaphosa thinks that he will lead us with his indecisive mentality foek hom man. xa!
Udakiwe
Problem is that we dont have a President but CyrilRamaphosa who has a lying tongue & a croud pleaser
Covid passport seyikhohliwe
We have come to learn that the SA previously victims of Apartheid regime took their time to learn successfully from the former master, in order to implement their well acquired education on mostly foreign African nationals. How hypocritical of you blaming the apartheid regime!
CyrilRamaphosa don't you our Constitution..? Don't you have empathy for the 7 killed by foreigners? Don't you know our immigration laws?
CyrilRamaphosa is a spiness person.. how the fuck are police to identify illegal immigrants kf not by checking ID?
Even the president is in disregard of the law. That's how deep in shit we are, South Africans.
Our police officials are negligent in their work and work against our constitution. The problem is that our government pay lot of money because of negligence.
Ke own goal eh.
The country has been sold mmmm Sizozilungisela udakiwe lona.. Why did he use apartheid strategies in July as he even deployed army.. unyile lobaba
He's the who instigated it in first place while he was looking 4 votes.....now he's in power nd all of sudden we're the bad people here😏....syadakelwa la
But when I come to visit Ramaphosa l will have to produce my ID book for verification, politicians are hypocrites. How do you identify an illegal foreigner without asking for identification documents
U can tell by the headlines u publish that u also in the deep sea of corruption, which country doesn't do that
Why?
This is the reason why our police end up not doing their job. The next thing they will be charged by the same government. Wa e gapa o molato, wa e feta o molato. 🤔🤔
And there you have it folks, this guy is supporting foreigners.
2024 can't come fast enough.
The Resident is clueless. Proof again our Resident I cannot think logically. No law enforcement against illegal aliens? Clearly official ABC policy.
Apartheid tactics is the police teargasing protesters in Diepsloot.
He is not my President, my president Zuma
I sometimes believe Nhlanhla Lux when he says President Cyril Ramaphosa works with OperationDudula in the background and won't mention it since SADC, UN,etc are watching.
Vote them out in 2024 PutSouthAficansFirst PutSouthAfricaFirst
He's a weak leader
Condemning how they do it? Then tell them the best way to go about it. Don't disapprove and give no solutions gwala ndini
the country is on autopilot… no leadership
😂😂😂 hey ,what a president..
Ramaphosa hates us! He is NOT my president!
Abramjee At no time in history has South Africa been in the dire chaos it is in now. All of it as a result of years of ANC mismanagement, misguided policy and criminal behavior. But Ramaphosa continues to retain criminals and deploy incompetence.
He and his corrupt ANC cadres should do their jobs.
The prez is more worried about the frog in the hot water
Uyanya Lo wempumlo.
The President has spoken!!!!
Ni sure ukuthi u Cyril Ramaphosa umuntu?
This is the biggest mistake we've made. He's actually protecting criminals. Dudula is our only hope now.
Abramjee He is condemning for the last time 2024 he is out
They are doing their job. CyrilRamaphosa we don't agree with you.
This has got nothing to do with apartheid style every country ask for passport on visitors. I wonder what kind of a country they want us to live on
Cyril Ramaphosa
But is behind the treatment of asking for vax passports? Make this make sense.
But it's SAPoliceService job Mr President!!!!! If not the police, then who?
Always condemn condemn condemn! Suka nx!!!!
2024 u wont b in power we are tired
Ai🤷♂️
Abramjee Eisaaaan, this won't end well.
Thank you Mr President 😂
We must check the nationality of this guy. Are we sure he is Venda? I know Vendas, they are very bright. I suspect Ramaphosa is a Zimbabwean.
In which century these police and home affairs minister live in, really , including the coward Nhlanhla Hlaudi, asking ppl Dom pass, mxm. Basihlekisa ngamabhunu
Maybe Ramaphosa must tell us how the police are supposed to identify the illegal immigrants without calling for identification cards. I would also love to know that those Amadudula do they dudula the non blacks or they are only concerned with black skin only.
Is he referring to criminals? Cos those foreigners are not even supposed to be in the country, Ramaphosa wa nyela
Whay does Ramaphosa know about running a country?
But minister Cele said they have every right to behave like their oppressors 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The ultimate insult. God knows nothing can be worse than apartheid era-anything. Its actually a miracle we have black people left in SA.
Does he still remember Who voted him to power it was South Africans NOT foreigners
Cyril is a problem in this country. Why must we bend our laws to occupy everyone here? Which country allows foreigners to roam freely without identifications of their original countries?
Come 2024 our enemies will be asking us to vote for them
Ramaphosa does not respect the rule of law
Abramjee Is not apartheid style it's safety..
It's official this country doesn't have a president anymore.
'Apartheid' the word that you can use when all logical thoughts are trapped in your mind and you don't know what direction you ffff in to fock all = no direction how to apply the law, by a leader...........
Abramjee I here every one is complaining about a police officer what about crime this guys are committing and what is the solution we get break in and no one is being arrested why because they are in documented
Abramjee This one only cares about intimidating Boers with expropriation of land without compensation just so his brother in law can keep on buying their farms at a lesser price...modern-day extortion
Other countries do it
If he was a leader we wouldn't be here, him & his party created this mess so he must clean it instead of being against his citizens. Does he even know that if u r in their countries they put that ZA sticker to identify u?
Abramjee He need’ to give us a solution
We don't have a president mos
MtwanaXabiso During apartheid the law was respected
The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing type of governance...🤔 kusekude lapho siyakhona.
We really need a president hey
Abramjee Mara Cyril nae neh, fuck
Hw must we verify if they are here legally. Diepslot must be cleaned of these aliens
Abramjee Who is advising Ramaphosa? I thought Ramaphosa is one of the lawyers that wrote our constitution and is aware about our immigration laws. Police must keep doing their job because also they are victims of immigrant criminals while Cyril is safe
Abramjee Why are this people only condemning South Africans? Apart from minister Motswaledi I don’t remember hearing any of them condemning foreigners. The whole parliament niks
Abramjee He can condemn that but these are practical tell tale signs. Dehumanisation to be guarded though.
'Condemned?' Nikka ain't you the president or somn?💀
Abramjee Every other country in the world demands that foreigners must identify themselves If it's too hard for Ramaphosa to enforce the law he must step down We wont be dominated and overcrowded by foreigners because of One man, this is not Zimbabwe and he is not mugabe
Abramjee This one will go down as one of the worst president ever he must leave the office
Abramjee Has the minister of home affairs and police gone rouge ?
sanctionsforsouthafrica
And crime during apartheid was not this bad
.. one of these days we’ll be comparing the inhumane treatment of citizens/ foreigners, to the ANC era
ramalokot u agree with ur boss?
People, who gave the police directions to do what they doing?🤣 Watch what the ministers r doing then you will understand where the president stands regarding the current situation. Y is he not recalling minister Cele and Motsoaledi then?🤷♂️ He said what he said because its Media
The police is making money Lots of it Mr President!
For police to stop that he must announce mass deportation this useless president, other than that he must brace himself of more unrest and riots from citizens, because we don't want immigrants anymore in our communities.
What’s the new protocol?
The president is drunk
finally he said something .
Isn't it the police's job to track down illegal aliens? How are they supposed to do that without asking for ID? I for one wouldn't complain at all if it would help?
CyrilRamaphosa PresidencyZA That's rubbish 🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮What's new or strange about it, every country that takes itself serious is doing it?
I am disappointed Mr President
Which Ramaphosa?
It not apartheid style. It's ANC style. Watch Tainted Heroes and stop race baiting
But it's their job. Do SAns always have to be intimidated when fighting for their rights. This foreigners come and rob us, take our cars and our government continues to protect them. This is worrying when the voice of SAns is never heard only foreigners are listen to 🚮
President is off and the EFF are so off the mark on this issue. This is a disgrace.....
ramalokot errolbsk your useless pres doesn't even know the country law's
Then CyrilRamaphosa must tell SAPoliceService on how to verify the illegal Foreigner in the country if law enforcement will not be allowed to do its job trust me Dudula Will not end.. I will not be documented in my country and be expected to live with unVetted foreigners
I used support this man..things are falling apart in this country..u talk nonsense apartheid in 2022? Faaakkkkkk. The crime is horrible..all is bad. Why should police not question an area with crime. How are they supposed to work
How were tgey suppose to do their job, how will he affairs do its job if they cannot ask for identity
The head chasing the tale. Meaningless tale spin
We also condemn his style of leading this country.
1Thepowerrace 👀 See Why I always say ANC is the real Enemy 🤨 Our Problem is the ANC qha.
Tell that stupid president to read the Constitution. while there: ask for early Elections, we are tired of HIM! OperationDudula PutSouthAficansFirst OnsBaizaNie
He always criticized without coming with solution what kind of a President is this maan herr
ramalokot Thuso and you still stay the ANC meant illegal Foreigners 👀 The ANC opened boarders and Welcomed Foreigners qha.We must stop blaming the EFF for the ANC’s mess.
Kudos Mr President
O a didimale nx
Nna am only curious and feeling for SA men who buy prostitutes.... Who will u buy from once all Zimbabweans go back home 😯🙄
This maron ..🙄how must the police conduct theit work with politicians busy interfering😑😑😑
It is the law. In fact it is your own apartheid laws which ANC sanitized instead of reforming that explicitly give police the right to ask for proof of identification from anyone within the country. That said, we'd not be here if gov had managed the borders, but here we are, cope
peterbroggs Sometimes okabona orile'marete' waitshola, anyway he's our president 🙌🏽
peterbroggs Ramaphosa is the worst President we have had. The man is completely out of touch with reality
_YassinAli Everything happening in SA now is apartheid style. People were butchered at Sharpeville, today foreigners are being burnt. The difference is that nowadays blacks are behind it. Back then excuses like fighting terrorists were given. Nowadays they kill 'Zimbabwean criminals'.
Better that than compromise our safety and security CyrilRamaphosa PresidencyZA Leave the police to return law and order please tu PutSouthAfricanFirst 🇿🇦
Who still listen to this idiot. Mxmm 🚮
I think Ramaphosa will show leadership here and give us solutions instead of condemning police who try to solve the problem. We need solutions. What do we do when people influx your country without proper documentation?
Extuse of a president. South Africans you are truly lead. Let's make it easy can traffic officer's also stop asking us for drivers licenses.
Think it's more incompetens than apartheid, but as usual the anc structures will always use racist statements to cover their coruption and inability to add value.
He probably smoked vaccines this 1🤷♂️
This President is not addressing the issues properly, we must make Aaron Motsoaledi a President just for 6 months cause he speaks sense.
All he ever does is condemn. After that he will go back to running around attending his nonsensical meetings
This is what your people want. None South Africans are their enemies. But Zimbabweans asked for it. I know someone who was high jacked, beaten and tied up by a street light. They were Zim Citizens. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
africaupdates Il y a certains sud africains qui ont une mémoire courte du combat que les africains ont mené pour la lutte contre l'apartheid
RAMAPHOSA is none existent in the eyes of many South Africans
President you are failing the masses, or are the politicians done looting?!
How does he expect police officers to check as to whether these foreign Nationals are complying with the law?
I don't like Apartheid but Apartheid is better than ANC Government.
Zimbabweans need to be compensated for the loss of Zimbo lives caused by the so called operation in SA. It is Africa, we are all Africans, we also have South Africans in other African countries who are living peacefully We are all Africans
This one won't see the second term.
Lidakiwe leligolo😠😡
What CyrilRamaphosa do not understand or give blind eye to. Is in reality here is more illegal foreigners in South Africa than there is legal.
Killing mine workers in Marikana was not a apartheid-syle approach?
Condemn is like making the same mistake and keep apologising
President wa pala straight.
U ramaphosa udakiwe manje stru
You don't stand up till someone must die and you don't listen to South Africans who voted for you police must help residents to be safe from undocumented immigrants
Who is he to condemn that, yet we as SANs we should carry the vaccine's passport to enter the events. What's the difference kanti? Such a hypocrite....
This will loose more votes bcz they dnt care or know hw ppl on the ground are faced with
It's the law CyrilRamaphosa . If the president is not interested in applying the law we have a major problem.
Tell the police have no right in asking them
How else then..?
What a lot of twaddle. I drive my car and if asked need to produce my driver's license. When going out I take my ID with me so if something happens I can be identified. Only crooks or those without ID'S should have reason to complain when asked to produce their ID.
By SA law, they're suppose to carry their documents all the time, everywhere they go. So uthin Mr Pres
PresidencyZA Have you ever seen the Immigration Act? If this is an apartheid style why not repeal this section?
Fotsek
Why not European style? Come to Europe and see what happens there!
So police not allowed to ask for people ID and documents? Illegal Foreigners allowed is what anc and cyril is saying
Again we blame apartheid for ANC uselessness. Yet they support Putin with a apartheid on steroids agenda.
Abahambe
You guys are lying
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