Second wave could've been 'largely avoided' with better contact tracing: Hunt

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Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt says coronavirus outbreaks in quarantine hotels only sparked a second wave because of the state’s deficient contact tracing system. 'My belief is that it largely could have been avoided.'

"The evidence is NSW had the equivalent of about six hotel quarantine breaches in terms of cases that have come from Victoria [and spread into the community]… The difference is they’ve been able to recognise them, chase them down, get on top of them early.

"It’s pretty clear numbers got beyond Victoria’s capacity to deal with every case in a timely way," Professor Sutton told 3AW's Neil Mitchell. "They might have been in an area with a number of people who were casual contacts … and has spread to a number of them who all went away without knowing they were close contacts and our system couldn’t trace," he said."I can’t say it would have been stopped with a NSW system."

 

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My belief is rht fedrql govwrn2mnt should have taken on 4hb1urantee as has qlqysinst w d passing rh buck

Its because they were trusted to obey rules instead of being supervised.quarantine should have been offshore at Rotto or Christmas island.nobody should be allowed in without it.

No point in squeaking about it now...fix it.

HELPFUL THANKS GREG

We need new federal emergency legislation which could override state’s when needed, ‘ it’s needed now’. GregHuntMP tonytardio 3AW693 RealMarkLatham PaulineHansonOz

Now little Gregory, tell us more about the aged care fiasco and the minister responsible. Profits before lives!

Weird how quarantine is a federal responsibility yet the federal minister just gets to point fingers.

GregHunt was ultimately in charge of AgedCare. He claims the COVIDSafe app found 500 contacts in NSW. GregHunt is lying about Victoria’s contact tracing. 700+ would have beaten tracing anywhere. GregHunt has no credibility.

What's so 'gold standard' about an approx 1% difference anyway (24% Vic-23 % NSW non traceables) ? After all, if you remove the overseas infections (that require no tracing) the difference is minimal. The Age should do better than repeat nonsense LNP propaganda.

Everyone using the same LNP talking points again. Use until it is (once again) disproved and we seamlessly move on. It's 'gold standard' this week. Next week, rinse and repeat with a new snazzy word grab (aka slogan) . Australian media turned into a pack of lemmings.

Why has it taken so long for the health minister of Australia to bring this matter up? Did he warn the Victorian Premier before this about it?

What an unhelpful contribution to the debate in the middle of a pandemic GregHuntMP - Shame on you and for printing it - keep going DanielAndrewsMP and DHHS team - we know you are exhausted

Ignorant political comment. No other state contact tracing has had to deal with the numbers we in Victoria have.. As a Victorian born and raised in NSW I feel totally abandoned by the Federal Government. Abandoned but not surprised..

I don't really think 'in my belief' really cuts it. Many of our so called leaders cannot understand what DanielAndrewsMP and people of VIC have had to go through.

You are supposed to represent Victorians. How are you helping us by constantly apportioning blame?

I’m becoming more disappointed in the change of tac by the Feds in cheap shots now that Vic. is getting some traction on this pandemic. During the days of 500+ cases & Feds Aged Care debacle, the fallout of which is still affecting the daily death count. Dan has gained my vote

Uh hello what happened to 'the App' you fool

His belief? As if he'd know. I thought the Covid Safe app was supposed to be the 'gold standard' solution for contact tracing.

Belief is not going to cut it here. Tired of partisan politics in crisis from LNP. Greg Hunt and the Morrison government know all about avoidance and deficiencies. That's why they are constantly trying to make people look the other way. A belief is not a fact, it's a distraction.

Political point scoring continues more so through this pandemic. Divisive rather than collaborative.... so typical! 🤮

Maybe the App would have helped had it worked

Kapow64055083 I don't think 'My belief...' is the sort of thing we should accept from the Federal Health Minister, when there is contact tracing data available that can provide something solid auspol

Why were the states left to develop their own contact tracing system? Surely the Cwth govt could have developed a cohesive system to be used across Australia? Its not like the virus recognises borders. After all, they developed the Covidsafe App (*ahem) for national use.

If only they had stopped AlexHawkeMP In-laws and other passengers getting off the Ruby Princess and not withheld the passages manifest from Qantas and Virgun you mean! See fixed it!

Really? What a fucking surprise!

F.O.S

Yeah that’s right pass the buck.

Doesn’t sound too precise Mr Hunt

The newly workshopped angle CONTACT TRACING FAILURE! The hotel quarantine attack campaign mustn’t have been cutting through.

So, is GregHuntMP admitting that his contact tracing app covidsafe is an abject failure and waste of public money? Interesting that all of Vic's supposed 'failures' all relate to Morrison govt responsibilities: aged care, quarantine, contact tracing app. auspol

Minister Greg Hunt Health Minister responsible for Pandemic Planning was a risk assessment undertaken to identify gaps in public health systems needed to link cases by contact tracing, or information technology by the Morrison,Turnbull or Abbott Government? On your watch!

Does this actually make any sense to anyone, especially considering the Governments dud of a contact tracing App. 'outbreaks in quarantine hotels only sparked a second wave because of the state’s deficient contact tracing system.'

Greg Hunt should be largely avoided- and given he is a small minded twit wearing what always looks like he stole an adult’s suit, that shouldn’t be hard.

🐌🐌🐌🐌 You should start as you intend to finish.

Government needs to just step back. They’re creating way more problems for the masses!

One of the most shameful things to emerge from this whole sorry Covid-era is the chronic underfunding and ensuing incompetence of Victoria’s public health capability.

GregHuntMP what about the million dollar COVID App that doesn’t work, Greg? Fix that

It possibly could've been avoided if we had an App.

GregHuntMP Melbourne and NSW circumstances are different

your opinion and everyone elsed

His belief? So not based on any facts then.

Lots of things could’ve been ‘largely avoided’ if you think about it.

What about the aged care, why didn’t they avoid that and the Ruby Princess, so let off this LNP MOB.

Wasn’t the App supposed to work?

Even 6 months later Dan still has a poor contact tracing system.

My belief is you have failed all older Australians Mr Hunt

Good job Greg Hunt. Clearly the other states got it right.

What a DISGRACE these health minister and prime minister are trying to politicize a virus. Instead of governing for all Australians they are only governing for business. This virus is happening all around the world. Do you think in each country state and feds argue. Of course not

Wasnt he part of the whole 'covidsafe' app doing that for everyone?

Tracing throigh the useless COVIDsafe App ? That we funded millions for but that has been useless as an ashtray on a motorbike That contact tracing? This Hunt is really acting the buffoon now. With an AgedCareCrisis and mulitple deaths on his watch

Why does anyone even listen to this guy? He’s irrelevant.

Avoided by hiring competent people

Good pickup so what are you doing to help

Dan Covids 19-- Special Victorian Victims Unit!!! SVVU!!!!

Is that like over 400 deaths could have been avoided if the LNP had a plan for aged care?

My belief is that Greg Hunt doesn’t actually have the authority or ability to actually do anything that would help Victoria. My belief is that the best thing GregHuntMP could do is to stop talking about Victoria, and work with his Aged Care minister to stop rotting.

Yes, and he is overseeing an app that doesn't do what it says on the box. My belief is that the contact tracing may have been better if the app he has been pushing (with $70m spent so far) actually worked.

'My belief' His belief was that we could all get back to work after the release of the Covidsafe app, so um yeah.

Didnt the federal government develop a tracing app? Spent millions on it apparently How is that working out?

Is this guy leading a national health system. Why is he blaming states instead of cooperating with them to fix the faults. This is not how a nation faces a crisis. This is low grade politics.

Any idea on how AgedCare could have had a plan!

Fix nursing homes, fix job keeper, fix role of GPs, fix drug availability on PBS. In other words do your job before worrying about everyone else’s.

Your app didn’t f-ing work!!!! Glass houses much!!? Ffs. Never mind your aged care homes.

Got to love politicians playing the game😉

Well that COVID app really worked to help with the contact tracing didn’t it? Typical LNP sticking the boots in while ignoring their own miserable failings.

This is supremely unhelpful right now. What the hell is the federal govts goal here? A bit of shoosh would be good from Canberra.

Arrogant and unhelpful.

What crap! Figures show that comparisons between Vic and NSW contact tracing have a 1% diff. Why not fix your app that has cost us $70 mill. (so far) and stop funneling more money into LNP apparatchik’s pockets. NSW was lucky, where is the feds Aged Care plan?

'Belief'!!! That's the trouble. Did he indicate what he believed was the difference between Public Aged Care and Private Aged Care? That would be closer to his portfolio responsibility, and does not seem to be related to a deficiency in contact tracing. CovidSafeApp

The 'contacting tracing' and the 'quarantine hotels' issues are red herrings. When you identify the virus as not representing a serious health threat to the vast majority of the population then the issues about 'contacting tracing' and the 'quarantine hotels' becomes irrelevant.

Who is the chairman of ch9 newspapers again 🤔

Maybe if we'd not been pressured into lifting restrictions to stage 2 while we had community transmission happening, as well as the Hotel Breaches, this wouldn't have happened.

Avoided with a $63m 'Covidsafe' app perhaps GregHuntMP ? Or a national plan for border control? Or a national plan for protecting private aged-care under federal responsibility? These people have more front than Myers and our media...crickets. auspol

We were given a false sense of security with the federal government’s rollout of its COVIDSafe App. Is it working yet?

Is he admitting that the COVIDSAFE app failed

GregHuntMP I think you mean if the few infected security guards had not 'somehow' managed to infect many, many other people very quickly it largely could have been avoided.

However, Mr Hunt remained silent on the topic when asked to offer any information or evidence which might be able to support his unverifiable claim.

Rubbish. Concentrate on aged care. Job plan.

Hi GregHuntMP if only there was a government run app that.... never mind...

Seriously, if we want to protect our precious bio security (and we should) then Australia should be allowing anyone not quarantined offshore and COVID tested and proven clear to travel to Australia.

It still lacks HUNT looking at where 80% of the problem is NOW!! PNH's run by the LNP!! Been badly run for years!! A total overhaul reqd. too PRIVATISATION!!👎🤪😷🤔😡

Check with ruby dutton.

If only there had been some sort of effective tracing app available? Damn it!

🇦🇺🇦🇺 Here’s a thought, how about the 🇦🇺 Government lower the retirement age, back down to 65, then people could retire on a pension instead of chasing jobs they won’t get, just to justify their unemployment benefit, the unemployment rate would look better too 🇦🇺😱🤞👀

How’s the app going you flake

So says the Minister of BS & Waffle! .... lol lol

The 2nd wave could have been stopped if 1. LNP’s multi million dollar Contact Tracing App had actually worked 2. LNP had put in place a national Contact tracing system 3. LNP had put in place a national quarantine system. Three huge failures by the LNP which have hurt us badly

GregHuntMP - and the COVID Safe app? Another failure brought to you from LiberalAus auspol

Best he stop playing party politics

How’s that ‘COVIDSafe’ app going 💩 for 🧠? Aged care? Hypocrisy personified from our ‘Health’ Minister - who doesn’t run a hospital... GregHuntMP COVID19 auspol LNPfail LNPCrimeFamily Hypocrites

How great are Vic doing to get on top of these outbreaks .. it’s hard for Vic but they are doing great .. NSW has been bouncing around 50 down to 9 today and Vic is closing the gap with today 55 new cases.. it will not be long and the numbers will get down

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