If Warren Scraps Private Health Care, Beware the Unintended Consequences

At the heart of presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s ambitious Medicare for All plan is this tantalizing promise: the U.S. can spend less on health care than it does now yet get a lot more for it: 32 million people currently uninsured will have coverage, while co-pays and deductibles will disappear and everyone will get long-term care.

How does she do it? By saving trillions of dollars spent on things she claims have zero value: administrative overhead, inflated salaries of hospital executives and surgeons, and exorbitant...

greg_ip And your solution is bankrupting more American families for insurance and pharma company profits? And perhaps just letting the chronically ill and poor die to remove the excess population?

greg_ip Democrats are forced to have a fix it plan prior to the primaries. Republicans just promised the best healthcare and we’ve gotten nothing. Let’s elect someone who can elevate both the discussion and solutions while looking at what works in the rest of the world.

greg_ip wsj is full of shit.

greg_ip Dozens of major industrialized capitalist nations have universal healthcare

greg_ip Private healthcare is unaffordable, just a few ones have it the majority doesn’t. Stop confusing people. Private healthcare is a rip off and doesn’t cover everything is needed.

greg_ip There will be a Civil War if private insurance is eliminated ...

greg_ip Warren: Dangerous to your health.

greg_ip Sure. Underuse if health care is better, eh? Uninsured people begging rescuers not to call an ambulance because they can't afford the bill is much better. Fucking clowns.

greg_ip Hahahahahaha. You mean actually being able to use healthcare. That’s a new one. okboomer

greg_ip I want her health plan! Will she, and her cronies, give it up for this new mess? I’m guessing the answer is - No.

greg_ip The overuse of healthcare is a money counters conclusion. Here in Canada we tell each other, “You pay for it, so you go get another opinion” or “tell the doctor you want an MRI now!” We can direct the ship, it’s good. We don’t care if the accountants have more work.

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greg_ip Gee rupert, don't we have anything we can learn from all the other developed countries who have had single payer healthcare for decades?

greg_ip Bring it because big pharma has been abusing the system and the people since time and memorial! It's our fkg turn!

greg_ip Seriously? That people might “overuse” healthcare rather than having access to quality, affordable care when needed or preventive care before its needed is the consequence we should fret over. Puh-lease.

greg_ip Mrs. Warren am like 60% of Americans. I am good with ObamaCare. Your wealth tax and your solicalized medicne will doom your campaign long before the nomination is settled. Thank God

greg_ip What is over use of healthcare? People you don't like actually having healthcare?

greg_ip Bad idea Elizabeth! This would bankrupt our country!

greg_ip Lot better than the consequence of the millions going without today

greg_ip She may have an Obama-like $10,000 deductible up her sleeve. 'Equal healthcare that no one can afford' has a nice ring to it.

greg_ip Imagine the huge savings for County and local governments if the ER only needed to be used for real emergencies.

greg_ip WSJ: How many times were you dropped on your head as a child?

greg_ip As the marginal cost of something approaches zero, the quantity of demand approaches infinity. Econ 101.

greg_ip Hmmm, How dare prople want medical when they're I'll.

greg_ip Only rich people would come up with an asinine phrase like that.

greg_ip Maybe over use of medical care for a while until they bankrupt the country! Really, that is your concern with Lizzy's plan? Medicare is in trouble now with just the Seniors on the medicare plan! Medicare only pays 80% now for Seniors and is going bankrupt! Wake up America!

greg_ip Today there is an underuse of healthcare by many low wage workers and families.

greg_ip Define 'overuse.' Once upon a time you were conservative but at least coherent. What happened?

greg_ip consequences of not dying or going bankrupt and not profiting of healthcare by denying services

greg_ip Why Democrats, always want to screw up our health insurance?

greg_ip Ms. Turkeyosteoneck ain't gonna make it.

greg_ip This is how insane the MedicareForAll fearmongering has become. OMG people are going to “overuse” health care”! -Just like people in all other developed countries, who go back for another surgery just so they can get more healthcare... 😆😆

greg_ip overuse? why? Do you go to the doctor when you are not sick? only the hypochondriacs do it and it's only 1% of people. It's a crap what you said...

greg_ip Right. Better to have the UNDERUSE we have today. Better for insurance companies, anyway.

greg_ip She is overused!

greg_ip Socialized healthcare is always a mistake.

greg_ip Ya don’t say

greg_ip How is an economics writer qualified to determine what constitutes 'overuse' of health care?

greg_ip Grandma Warren is dangerous. Vote Bloomberg or Buttigieg. We need a moderate to help heal this country.

greg_ip Oh my god someone is OVERUSING helth care. Call the police... I am sure all these people LOVE waiting in line at a hospital. Geeez waht a weak argument. Wall Street Journal worthy?!

greg_ip Overuse? WTF? Absurd.

greg_ip Exactly!! I will be deprived of my freedom to go bankrupt from medical costs AND I’ll be forced to live longer! MAGA!!!

greg_ip yeah I have heard how all those Euro millennials are just wasting their whole lives away going to the doctor all day every day, trying out new surgeries and treatments for no reason. wankers.

greg_ip Her tax plan may be wrong, but the US medical system really does NOT work.

greg_ip So how do the fucktards that believe this consequence explain canada, britain and most all of the entirety of the European Union’s health care costs and use as compared to the current US model? The US has the highest cost medical price in the western world,along with flagrant use

greg_ip Wtf is overuse of healthcare ? AnandWrites

greg_ip Mr. Garthwaite found that in the 1990s many pediatricians saw reimbursement rates drop when patients switched from private insurance to a new federal-state health-insurance plan for children. As a result, they spent less time with each patient and worked fewer hours

greg_ip Please before saying this nonsense check how health outcomes are much better in Sweden which has universal single payer medical care than in the US. You can’t complain about over use and rationing at the same time.

greg_ip WSJ clutching their pearls again. The ruling class doesn’t like Liz.

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greg_ip Isn't that disgusting people might actually want to get healthy. What would we do with all that money we would save on health care costs. Rebublican answer - TAX CUTS FOR THE 1%.

greg_ip Hahaha hahaha

greg_ip I can’t imagine people wanting to remain healthy or even worse, get healthy when they have been diagnosed as being sick. It’s a disgrace!

greg_ip we wouldn't want people being too healthy

greg_ip gotta be a satirical article

greg_ip My God. How does every other first world country deal with this problem?

greg_ip and has she revealed how much the administrative cost alone (1000s of federal employees) would be?

greg_ip It will be like Europe, longer life and nobody goes bankrupt for health reasons. Not bad.

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' reminds me of 'too much money'.

greg_ip this pro grifter never achieved a single thing in the private sector, is a multi millionaire from gov (ie theft), and is lying through her teeth that her Medicare plan could ever work. these people want to destroy America.

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greg_ip Such a ridiculous statement.

greg_ip Overuse? GTFO

greg_ip Imagine living in a society

greg_ip Reminds me of the rich hoarding food while the poor starve. People need to be able to use healthcare when they need it, not when they can afford it. Seeing the doctor isn't an exteacurricular activity to be 'overused'.

greg_ip Nobody likes going to the doctor, stop being ridiculous

greg_ip Ok so the nutters might do that but let's talk about the preventative care that can be taken care of at a doc/clinic VS having to go to emerge because you left it too long. Or just not being able to afford diabetes meds but ending up with an amputation.

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greg_ip Yea doesn’t happen

greg_ip As opposed to now where people die because they can’t afford to get a checkup

greg_ip Absolute bullsh!t

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greg_ip Sorry Greg you have no idea what what you're talking about. 'overuse of health care'...um nope. Try listening to countries and citizens of those countries who already have universal health care. Why are you arguing AGAINST health care for all?

greg_ip Such as... poor people getting medical care. Ugh, gross, amIrite? LOL, WSJ, you are nothing if not consistent.

greg_ip Stop

greg_ip The Wall Street Journal does not hire critical thinkers.

greg_ip Overuse? Like, get a “fun” colonoscopy on a Friday night? Mammogram party for your birthday? What an idiotic excuse. The people need healthcare, not just the rich.

greg_ip Article accuses Warren of not seeing big picture but fails to do so w/ its own critiques. The ex of ⬆️ hospitalization/cost w/ switch from MAdv to basic Medicare doesn’t account for current copays —preventing many to skip office visits & meds which could prevent hospitalization.

greg_ip Apparently,! greg_ip needs needs to use the health care system to remove the Excrement he’s full of.

greg_ip Hey ‘merica, please hurry up and sort this out because you are pioneers with this universal healthcare thingy and the rest of the world is waiting for your leadership.

greg_ip You can’t keep walkin in to the doc saying “GIVE ME ANOTHER FULL PANEL WORKUP” like it’s a tapas bar. You think healthy people keep coming in for repeat labwork and multiple Dx instances to beat their high score? “PUT ANOTHER QUARTER IN! I wanna win the bear!” Get out of here.

greg_ip Idk about the rest of you, but if I had better Healthcare, I'd be calling ambulances to get me to work if I was running late, have major surgeries for a sprained ankle and ask for HUGE amounts of controlled drugs for a sniffle. BECAUSE THAT'S APPARENTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN

greg_ip This is right in there with that previous WSJ article about how less hours will make people not love work, or.some such bullshit. Bugger off.

greg_ip This will replace the current problem, overuse of gofundme 😬

greg_ip The definitive argument against universal health care. This guy is trump level genius.

greg_ip You mean people actually not being sick for months on end is a bad thing? Color me surprised

greg_ip You people should stop being so goddamn petulant about this. In Europe overuse is such a big issue we are considering getting rid of healthcare altogether.

greg_ip This is typical scaremongering by moneyed interests fighting to hold onto their billions without taxation. We aren't all so stupid as to believe this drivel. What a privileged, asinine take.

greg_ip Lolwut

greg_ip The abusers of Medicare are health care providers, not us sick folks !!!Next question ?

greg_ip As everyone is probably aware, this publication is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Is this greg_ip writing this? Has this publication lost its independent voice? Is it a mechanism of American Cronyism? Overuse of medical services... 'could you die on schedule? In increments perhaps?'

greg_ip What. The. Fuck. Is. This? Are you serious wsj? I can’t believe this is what you chose to publish...

greg_ip In Canada some people go to the doctor often and others don’t go much at all but it’s there for everyone. No qualifications, outside of having a healthcard, needed.

greg_ip Try Medicare for all for a year then try to take it away .

greg_ip U get a mammogram ..n u get a mammogram.. such uselessness

greg_ip Ok boomer.

greg_ip Be right back, going to bust up some concrete in 20 deg F weather in shorts and sandals without eye protection in the hopes of my free overconsumption of healthcare

greg_ip Will I be able to get dialysis whenever I want it? I mean, my kidneys and liver are fine. I've just been seeing 'filtered five times' on the vodka I've been drinking lately, and I'm wondering if all that filtering would make my blood feel smoother? Let me know.

greg_ip Seriously Greg, travel more. Canadians don't exactly line up at our doctors offices for a daily dose of healthcare

ediesleftshoe greg_ip Yes yes! We ALL want cancer!

greg_ip Seven years ago I was in the hospital for a month from a car accident my bill was 1.5 million dollars if it was for insurance I would be broke

greg_ip So right! We wouldn't want unnecessary dr visits taking the place of unnecessary deaths due to the high cost of insulin or unnecessary deaths due to a lack of healthcare!

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greg_ip Thank you, WSJ, for this endorsement of SenWarren

greg_ip WSJ lol

greg_ip How in the fuck does one OVERUSE healthcare?! Wouldn't using it alot mean that 'big healthcare' makes more money? I don't even think these opponents to everything social realize what they're arguing anymore. They're just like 'No. Poor people die in streets regardless!'

greg_ip Overuse? Many of the medical costs is due to underuse, which leads to major costs that get “covered” for free anyway. The issue is for profit insurance lobbies that can’t make money with healthy people

greg_ip Just here for the ratio.

greg_ip Admitting publicly that you hire morons is a weird flex. Just sayin.

greg_ip Is this like, the overuse of roads and schools and the fire department?

greg_ip Narrator. It was cancer

greg_ip 2/2 I’m self employed for 25 years and have spent literally $350k for basic mediocre health insurance in that time. Never any dental coverage nor eye care. Now I have no money for my daughter’s college. FUCKTHATSHIT MedicareForAll

greg_ip 1/2 Tax cuts for millionaires? No prob. $$ to fund endless wars? No prob. STEALING $$$ from other initiatives to pay for a stupid pointless wall? NO PROB. But for something that will benefit EVERYONE and correct a horrific only-in-America problem? Now the press is worried.

greg_ip Because everybody LOVES seeing the doctor

greg_ip You mean I’d be able to go to the doctor whenever I needed to instead of just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best? Sign me up.

greg_ip OVERUSE. OF HEALTH CARE. Everyone in this god-forsaken country needs to let that sink into their brains. My god.

greg_ip Ratio. This take is the sh*tiest tale of all takes. Over use? So...more medical people employed, a focus on preventive medicine, people not going broke... Please kindly take this god awful opinion and GFYS.

greg_ip Seriously, how much of a problem is this in the US military? If it's big, we should probably consider adding copayments for soldiers at the aid station.

greg_ip Government healthcare is horrible. I’ve got boxes of unused product shipped to my parents house weekly when in actuality they need nurses care which they limit. Like everything government does is half ass backwards. I’d rather chose my own insurance my own insurance.

greg_ip Doesn’t happen in Canada where we have universal healthcare. Only see a doctor when we have to.

greg_ip Overuse Ugh. Health care is a human right.

greg_ip Yeah, as a Canadian, I overuse my healthcare so much that I'm actually healthy. The horror!!!

greg_ip Yeah, because, if there’s one thing I would love to do more of, it’s go to the fucking doctor.

greg_ip Welp, this gets the prize of the morning for overuse of stupidity! 😑🥇😑

greg_ip And winner of DUMBEST tweet of the year goes to you!!!!

greg_ip Look, I get that, as the Wall Street Journal, you want to protect your namesake. But saying that easier access to healthcare will result in a rise of healthcare usage should highlight how few people actually have access to healthcare when they really need it. VoteWarren

greg_ip It's almost as if no other country has universal healthcare and there is no way to see that this is a made-up concern.

greg_ip Yes, because I, too, dream of putting “going to the hospital” on my weekly agenda.

greg_ip 😂

greg_ip Next, dentists inundated because people love fillings.

greg_ip Lollll

greg_ip Wasn't this the same argument against the ACA and it proved to be false?

greg_ip If 10 people go to get a small mole checked and only one is cancerous, that one early diagnosis could save hundreds of thousands of dollars. Moronic author doesn't understand healthcare.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare... Meaning, people will get minor illnesses and/or injuries treated instead of letting them fester and develop into chronic or fatal conditions.

greg_ip Dumbest take ever. Going to the Dr’s is not something we do for fun up here.

greg_ip So....one of the disadvantages of healthcare is that people might get HEALTHY?!

greg_ip Ahh the old tragedy of the commons moral hazard argument. How about we give it a try and see what happens.

greg_ip Psst, your bias is dripping.

greg_ip Actually, the standard of care will lower to that of the Veterans Administration which is about the same as the federal prison system. I could see VA facilities being used for her plan. I’m all for public option with private insurance but no private insurance? Nope.

greg_ip God forbid people aren't fearful of going to Dr. I wonder how many people die because they waited too long. Saving lives should always be the objective. This is just dumb.🤷

greg_ip Well this is some bullshit

greg_ip I’m not a M4all fan but c’mon. My husband and I call what we pay in insurance trashcan money because we just throw it away. We have it in case of disaster where our medical bills exceeded our deductible ( we’d have to go into debt to pay that too)

greg_ip Healthcare finance reform is the first step, reform of the service model will follow financial incentives. Population health is driven by epidemiology, in other words the actual causative factors of illness. Poverty, education, lifestyle choices are largest attributing factors.

greg_ip Are you trying to get her elected? “Overuse of health care” - lol. That is - decidedly not - a problem most people see as a problem.

greg_ip Fuck whatever would we do with an extremely healthy society?

greg_ip The author of this doesn't know what a prior auth is.

greg_ip So you're concerned that people will actually go and get the health care they actually need to live physically and mentality in today's world? My God that would be terrible.

greg_ip The person who wrote this considers himself a journalist? Seriously? Wow what garbage!!!

greg_ip Wonder why greg_ip preferred to use hypotheticals to make his case instead of drawing from real examples of successful universal healthcare... 🤔

greg_ip As opposed to not using healthcare because can't afford it?

greg_ip This is not true. Currently those w/o insurance must go to the ER. They can’t pay so costs are passed to those of us who can pay or have ins policies in place, in two ways. The hospital bills me more and they bill my carrier more, causing me to pay higher premiums.

greg_ip ..... sounds like someone doesn’t understand that if people don’t fear going bankrupt for seeking medical attention, they would go see a doctor sooner, this reducing the risk of more costly emergency services. Healthcare in USA is a joke. It’s a business modeled to make ill ppl.

greg_ip you should deny Greg_ip health care plan, because of unintended consequences such as overuse of his health care. Greg god forbid the poor have the opportunity to have health care. You must be a special person to be able to manage your insurance where others can't.

greg_ip Oh no! Does this mean... does this mean doctors will actually have to... do their jobs *faint* ... serious question, do you consider going to the doctor some kind of recreational activity?

greg_ip Yep, here in Spain because of free health care I now go to the doctor every time I need to sneeze, so they can blow my nose. When I have a cold I just check into a free hospital and a private nurse stands by with a tissue ready at all times.

greg_ip Yes, we need to be cautious of all those people who will take advantage of the system by getting CT scans for the fun of it. Full lipid panel bood tests could become the next big teenage trend.

greg_ip I am taking health economics right now, and this is the shit that economists talk about: the overuse of healthcare if people were insured. Meanwhile, 20+ other industrialized nations ensure ALL their citizens for HALF the cost per person that the US spends on healthcare.

greg_ip Can’t wait to check into a hospital to get a good nights sleep

greg_ip Wondering if ACTUAL the consequences WSJ fears are that we disabled might live longer & use more benefits paid for by 'REAL people's taxes.' After all, those of us with disabilities use more than our 'fair share.' *Sobs bitterly, crawls away to die.*

greg_ip 'Overuse' to you is when we spend money to benefit everyone that you can't have for yourself.

greg_ip Maybe if I'd had better access to healthcare when I was younger, my brain tumor might have been diagnosed before I became too disabled to work at the age of 40. (Docs didn't find it until 12 yrs later.) How horrifying to think I might have been a productive worker instead!

greg_ip I know I'm going to be in line at the hospital at midnight on election day just waiting for the chance to roll around in healthcare. There's nowhere I'd rather be than the hospital.

greg_ip So today’s lobbyist-sponsored argument against universal healthcare is that - wait for it - people will use it. Seriously though, doesn’t this sound exactly like Reagan’s “Cadillac queens” dog whistling? Comforting to all the bankrupt and uninsured Americans out there, I’m sure

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare.” Like people going to the doctor and getting their health issues diagnosed early instead of putting it off due to high deductibles and mounting medical bills? OH, THE HORROR. 🙄

greg_ip Why are you the way that you are, greg_ip? Reflect and do better.

greg_ip Overuse of health care, really? The flying redacted

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare.” Like people going to the doctor and getting their health issues diagnosed early because they won’t keep putting it off due to high deductibles and mounting medical bills? OH, THE HORROR. 🙄

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greg_ip Where is my motherfucking PITCHFORK?!

greg_ip Whoops I overused the health care and now I’m immortal, somehow to the detriment of others!!

greg_ip Whereas, our current health care for profit system has unintended consequences such as a lot of people dying when they did not have to, assuming that this is actually an unintended consequence and not part of the business model.

greg_ip Well greg_ip and I can assure as a Canadian and a lucky recipient of universal health care I can assure you I don't go to the doctor unless I need to, I question treatment plans and requested tests! What a load of crap, 'overuse of health care'!

greg_ip How dare ‘they’ go to a doctor

greg_ip OH MY F'ING MY! You mean, like, people who think they might be sick, and feel like they won't go broke to go see if they ARE sick, might go to a doctor? Well, it sounds like the unintended consequence is everyone staying healthy or getting treated sooner for actual sickness?

greg_ip Damn this is a stupid take

greg_ip poor people finally getting the care they need is overusing healthcare?

greg_ip Why can’t Americans have the same human right that other 1st world countries have? Is it perfect? Nothing is. It would although, be better than the debit inducing system we have today ffs:

greg_ip Omg , people are actually going to be able to go tothe doctor and get the care they need! I doubt people will run to the doctor when they don’t need to but I am sure we can find a way to fix that if it does happen

greg_ip In reality, it is the wealthy who will over-use healthcare because they have more free time than the poor

greg_ip Maybe the poor could stop being exploited so they don't have to treat chronic conditions slaving away for the wealthy

greg_ip lol ask me the last time I got a physical

greg_ip Preventive care saves money 🤦‍♀️ would offset any “overuse” if that even actually happens

greg_ip This is a very weak argument.

greg_ip Living in Canada you do see it here certainly but that’s zero fucking reason to not have universal healthcare. Some people will always abuse a system, it does not mean the system shouldn’t be there in the first place. Period.

greg_ip Hahahaha! Hilarious. No one will go to a doctor when they feel healthy FYI.

greg_ip Greg which numbers did you crunch?

greg_ip 😂😂😂😂 'America fears sickly citizens will become too healthy' writes coffin salesman.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Is that even a thing

greg_ip Yes, , we wouldn't want that. Let's have Medicare for None. Better yet, let's scrap health insurance all together and make it pay as you go so only people who work hard making money on the money they inherited get to stay healthy.

greg_ip greg_ip has to be a rich white guy

greg_ip what the? Overuse? I guess that is possible, but I would love to take our chances on that outcome...SMDH

greg_ip Yup, in Canada, we from long lines to see the doctor, just in case there's actually wrong with us. And you thought hockey was our national sport. 🇨🇦

greg_ip It would be helpful if you might look at countries who provide comprehensive government-delivered health care to their citizens before making ill-thought generalized statements like this.

greg_ip In other words: “I will be accepting campaign donations from big pharma”

greg_ip That doesn’t sounds like a problem. What’s your point?

greg_ip “I’ll just schedule 10 surgeries! Not like I need them but hey why not!” Are you being unintentionally evil?

greg_ip 'Private insurers guard against overuse of health care by which care givers members can see, and how often.' Yeah, that's kind of the f****** problem assholes!

greg_ip So some people might no longer calculate if this three day fever is worth the $75 co-pay and see a doctor instead of just sucking it up and going to work so they can keep their job and insurance? thehoror

greg_ip Gauging the true cost of healthcare in US is IMPOSSIBLE b/c no standard pricing. Excessive paperwork(requiring more admin). Grossly, purposefully and erroneously inflated prices. Corporate greed. Insurance providers controlling care is a conflict of interest.

greg_ip lmfao this is hilarious

greg_ip Why aren't you against FSAs if you're worried about unnecessary health expenditures? The end of the year rule forces you to buy a ton of shit you don't need.

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greg_ip What is wrong with you people?

greg_ip “Overuse of health care” as a *bad* thing, according to WSJ.

greg_ip This bullshit argument is 100 years old. Get some new material.

greg_ip You’re ideas are terrible and you should not share them.

greg_ip over use of health care? as in staying healthy?

greg_ip Oh the horror of folks no longer only being healthy enough to keep working.

greg_ip You mean people will ACTUALLY use health care in an effective and non-emergency manner

greg_ip KnowYrEnemyPod lolololol

greg_ip News: Purchasing the is a waste of your money. The articles are biased and uninformative. There, fixed it for you. Shit-mag.

greg_ip oh no

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Lmao

greg_ip So poor people should just die?

greg_ip You're confusing access to affordable healthcare with hypochondria. That's not how it works.

greg_ip Oh please, WSJ. Every modern nation has national healthcare. We can have medicare 4 all; & private 4 those who want it. A handful of individuals becoming billionaires off overcharging- or denying treatment to- the sick & injured, is horrific. Medicare is solvent & pays 4 itself.

greg_ip Yeah, that’s going to happen Sitting in an ER or doctor’s waiting room with all the other “germy over users” is so much fun.

greg_ip Better than the intended consequences of ~30k deaths/yr and 500k bankruptcies of our current for-profit nightmare.

greg_ip 'Overuse' of health care is ridiculous. Right now even people with plans often can't afford healthcare due to high deductibles.

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greg_ip Murdoch-speak for let them eat cake!

greg_ip Yeah, everybody just loves going to the hospital. not

greg_ip For the hundredth time WSJ is the print option of Faux & Friends. Garbage!

greg_ip That would be awful..horrible that regular people might actually see a doctor twice. Omg the horror!

greg_ip 'Overuse' of healthcare?

greg_ip Fuck. We have yet to experience a crumb of actual health care for years now, you sniveling wankweasels. Being able to take care of health problems before they morph into emergencies that cause bankruptcies and oh, deaths, would be a nice change of pace.

greg_ip American citizens having healthcare is a right. To hell with this freaking country's greed. This damned healthcare racket contributed to the deaths of my Mom (age 49), my spouse/my 12 year old's Dad (age 53), and many others. They were good people.

greg_ip See recent JAMA study that states nearly a trillion $/ year of US health care expenditures go to administration, low quality care, and over-treatment. I’m an Obama-care for those who want it fan. The corporate medicine model must be abolished before it eats us alive.

greg_ip wsj have you been burdened by medical costs? Gone without healthcare? Afraid to use your healthcare ( if lucky enough to have it) for fear of ‘preexisting’ conditions? Please - real reporting.

greg_ip Bullshit.

greg_ip WHAT the F are you talking about!!!!! What you wrote if Total Totally!! Complete!!!! B . S.

greg_ip How do you overuse health care?

greg_ip “But if people have healthcare, they might actually use it!!!”

greg_ip Dumbest argument ever

greg_ip Overuse of health care? WTF is that supposed to mean? How do you overuse trying to get/stay healthy? And wouldn't more frequent use = healthier citizens = longer, more productive lives, and reduce costs by discovering life threatening illnesses sooner?

greg_ip Well, we wouldn't want people to go to the doctors whenever they feel like it. They'll get too healthy. Powerful, even. Then you'll have a nation over superpowered individuals running amok!

greg_ip Ahhh... yes... very troubling. Very troubling indeed. Doesn't our friend Ebeneezer Scrooge say something similar? A little more directly, perhaps... to his credit no less. Is greg_ip familiar with Victorian attitudes towards the poor? Perhaps time to dust off the olde Dickens.

greg_ip For real. My first appendectomy was such a hoot I had them put it back in and take it out again.

greg_ip Greg Ip. Your brain is broken, man.

greg_ip Of course. Isn't this why our borders are overflowing with refugees from Canada and everywhere else in the world, desperate for the health care that is being denied every day to them, their parents and their children in their own shithole countries? Oh. Right. Never mind.

greg_ip And with that statement, she loses my primary vote.

greg_ip The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a citizen of Australia. Australia enjoys universal healthcare, and 'overuse of healthcare' is just not an issue. A bigger problem in our system is not getting healthcare early enough to prevent bigger, costlier health problems.

greg_ip We have universal healthcare in my country and, no, we're not spending our time in hospital for fun. But I guess you're the kind of person who takes 4 free little cups of cream at the restaurant to bring 3 at home because they're free, right?

greg_ip Where did the “overuse” opinion come from

greg_ip Was this written by Mr. Pfizer?

greg_ip Overuse? WTF?

greg_ip Obviously this opinion hasn’t considered the actuality of medicare. There are built in rules throughout to prevent abuse of the system. Of course like everything else there are people who will try to scam the system, but it’s very difficult. So do more research now.

greg_ip greg_ip how about you just don’t get any healthcare at all to compensate for the people getting too much 😄

greg_ip Maybe stupidest take ever...

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greg_ip The people that write this garbage, Talk with your grandparents. Get real.

greg_ip Nah

greg_ip You're going to hell.

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greg_ip Let me tell you. I'd much rather have a hypochondriac I can send in and out in under 10 minutes, than have to deal with another partial amputation because an infected finger was left to linger for 6 months and has started giving the patient blood poisoning.

greg_ip There is nothing more fun than spending more time in the waiting room at the doctor's office!

greg_ip “Overuse” of healthcare? Are you smoking meth?

greg_ip There is no such thing

greg_ip There will always be some bad apples. Isn't it the argument y'all keep using about Wall Street?

greg_ip Which is obviously way worse than your current problem, which is massive 'underuse' of health care leading to large numbers of people dying of preventable conditions or having conditions get out of control due to lack of treatment. Way worse.

greg_ip Translation: Anytime an American who doesn’t matter uses health services, it’s an over use of healthcare. Ironic that people who don’t matter are usually the ones changing the bed pans.

greg_ip Greg Ip & WSJ versus cracked TheOnion

greg_ip Overuse of health care will make you go blind!

greg_ip People being able get healthcare as they need it regardless of what their employees are able/willing to pay them? Sounds like a world where employees are free to quit crap jobs without the terror of interruptions in healthcare. Sign me up.

greg_ip *looks around at my fellow canadians* hmmmm. uh. nope.

greg_ip No it doesn’t

greg_ip Hol up I need a second vasectomy

greg_ip Nothing I like more than going to the doctor unnecessarily on my “day off”

greg_ip stfv

greg_ip Not believable, Medicare for all is for medical care not, cosmetic care such as nose and boob jobs. ewarren BernieSanders JoeBiden MedicareForAll

greg_ip I'd love to give you the benefit of the doubt but I'm out of free articles and so forced to assume this is as incredibly out-of-touch and ghoulish as it sounds.

greg_ip 'You guys if people had healthcare they might use it!' 😱😱😱😱

greg_ip *walks into hospital the day after medicare for all is implemented* yes i would like ten healthcares please

greg_ip what a repugnant article and mentality.

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greg_ip Where 'overuse' actually means 'finally an appropriate level since it won't bankrupt me or my family.' The Lords of the Manor really only want their own, rich, protected class to have any benefits and fuck the rest of the country.

greg_ip “Overuse of health care.” Does that mean going to the doctor when you are sick? Cause right now I hold off on the doctor until I am basically dead.

greg_ip LIES LIES LIES Universal healthcare eliminates wasteful practices because there is NO PROFIT to be made MedicareForAll healthcare HealthforAll

greg_ip Is someone seeks out truly unnecessary medical treatments, that sounds like a mental health issue best addressed BY A DOCTOR.

greg_ip Yes! We want a tougher citizenry, like the 65-year-old woman I met who waited for 3 months following her accident to have her badly broken ankle fixed once she was finally eligible for Medicare. No fucking 'overuse' there. BTW, WTF is wrong with you?

greg_ip Overuse of health care is a far prefered outcome to our current problem of underuse of health care.

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greg_ip The ghouls writing these articles have never lived a day as a real human with actual struggles, imagining people just willy-nilly wanting to spend time in a doctor's office. Do WSJ journalists just have that little going on in their empty, empty lives that they picture this?

greg_ip Like being healthy is a bad thing

greg_ip The USA seems to be the only greatest country in the ENTIIIIIIRE world who cannot do basic math.

greg_ip Wouldn’t want people going and being all HEALTHY now would we

greg_ip What a ridiculous idea. Go to ER's every day and see many, many people without healthcare. Preventative care saves money.

greg_ip I go to the doctor twice a day to get my teeth brushed. Because I can.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare! 😂 Proof that they want us to be sick, complicit, or dead.

greg_ip Ah. Overuse of healthcare. also know as BEING HEALTHY

greg_ip What does that even mean

greg_ip Oh hell yeah. Like any good amusement park, I love going to the doctor's office. I will be there daily when M4A passes, stopping by the dentist's on the way home if I still have room for more excitement.

greg_ip Wow. This is irresponsible.

greg_ip So only rich people should be able to “overuse” healthcare because they can afford to pay it? You know single payer systems have, like, doctor-driven guidelines for healthcare right?

greg_ip You do realize that everyone, no matter what health insurance they have, hate going to the doctor.

greg_ip You mean the marginalized & poc might live with less pain and dysfunction not to mention as long as well off white ppl? That's enough of those kind of plans!

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare?” Yes. People love spending hours in waiting rooms being poked and prodded unnecessarily.

greg_ip Bruh I was in Sweden a few years ago. Did you realize you can get an appendix re inserted there!? It’s true I had mine in and out 6 times in my month long visit and it didn’t cost me a dime! So glad you brought up this important point.

greg_ip God forbid people actually get the healthcare they NEED for the first fucking time in history instead of waiting until an emergency to desperately try to not only get in to see a doctor, but to afford it. Fuck this article and fuck whomever wrote it.

greg_ip Hang your hat up after this one. What kind of fear mongering, lying garbage is this? If you're inferring that a large part of the population are hypochondriacs you're gonna need to put up some numbers. The waste is now, with the for profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' - who is this clown? Glad that Greg_Ip can quantify (monetarily) the value of a life. What a demented f*ckst1ck

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare” you people are GHOULS

greg_ip “Overuse of health care” is perhaps the weakest argument out there.

greg_ip Over.... use?

greg_ip Friends and fam only used healthcare in the UK when really necessary. Some abused it but all considered it a precious resource. Here, I see friends using as much as they can for minor things as they know they will always exceed their deductible so exploit that as much as possible

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greg_ip Another politician tell us how they can fix our health plan, but exclude themselves from it! Just like Obama Care!

greg_ip BS

greg_ip Way to openly state that the reason you don't have or want universal healthcare is because you don't want people who need it to access or use it.

You people need to gtfo of your ivory tower and get real jobs.

greg_ip “Overuse”. Next time say it out loud before print. Like getting healthy is a bad thing

greg_ip Because when people have access to free primary care they always prefer to go wait for hours in an ED instead. Did you actually THINK about this at all before printing it?

greg_ip And the right wing cult's plan is....JUST DIE MF'er

greg_ip I’m in med school and I still hate going to the doctor, actual healthcare isn’t going to change that

greg_ip How is this helpful? Now everyone is going to think I'm going in to get my bones bedazzled every Thursday because it's fun instead of necessary.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Healthcare is not a finite resource. No one is going to use up all the healthcare, idjit..

greg_ip This is one of the most stupid reasons I heard.

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care ' are you auditioning for the Ebenezer Scrooge of 2019?

greg_ip Canadian here! Its true, I just got heart surgery for fun because of socialism

greg_ip I live in the UK, have been to the doctor twice in 5 years. Nobody overuses healthcare, some just need it more than others, and that is how it should be.

greg_ip wooo boy what a bad take. enjoy the ratio.

greg_ip This is pure BS! Very disappointing wSJ.

greg_ip shut up boomer

greg_ip So condescending. Makes me recall growing up in a racist small town in the midwest with a sizable Native American community. After a federal or state settlement for stealing tribal land, White townies speculated the payouts would be misspent at bars and on high-priced toys.

greg_ip I pay a lot 4 ins. right now & they’re refusing a procedure that will help me sit, walk & stand without being in severe pain. The next step is surgery which I can’t afford the deductible. Tell me again how bad everyone having full medical coverage is bad. Because I’d like 2 walk.

greg_ip Can confirm, us Canadians visit the doctor at least three times a week just because we can.

greg_ip 🤡

greg_ip Yeah that’s bullshit. In the U.K. we have some people who go to their doctor for the slightest thing. It’s a pain & waste of resources but they are quickly sent on their way. Medical staff question each treatment/procedure is evaluated. A few slip through but it’s getting better

greg_ip That’s what I like to do. Just take a day off work and pop in to see the doctor for no reason. 🇨🇦

greg_ip I woke up and thought hmmm what should I do today? Go get a starbucksredcup or tie up the Canadian medical system because i can .. well since no one does the second I'm sitting here enjoying my god damn latte

greg_ip Even with publicly financed health care I still see my doctor once every five years . The idea that people are going to overuse the system is silly and not at all reflected in the evidence .

greg_ip Oh noooo, people who had to just suffer and stay sick before might actually go to the doctor!

greg_ip Are you arguing that doctors are morally unethical and are going to risk their license giving unnecessary care? People cannot afford to take a day off work or go to the hospital, but you think people are going to miss work to go to the dentist every month? 🤣

greg_ip The ratio on this is great 🤣🤣🤣

greg_ip Wait a minute, I thought SOCHALIZED medicine meant you could never get in to see a doctor and months-long waits for care? Now you're saying we can go anytime we want? Which would be almost never cuz ain't nobody got time for that.

greg_ip if i wrote that article i would expect to get hanged or guillotined or tarred & feathered or drawn & quartered or just beaten to death in street by a vengeful and just mob. and i’d know i deserved it. how do these people live with themselves?

greg_ip For real? Deny people health care at all Bc you are worried they might overuse it. “Let then eat cake.”

greg_ip I am so disgusted with this argument because it's wrong. Other developed countries have much lower out-of-pocket expenses than the U.S., better outcomes, and much lower health care costs. WSJ, get your facts straight!

greg_ip If there's one thing I can't stand about Scotland? Healthcare. Everywhere. Can't move for the stuff. I'm overwhelmed by healthcare.

greg_ip Healthy people are harder to control.

greg_ip Wrong

If they would just stop making doctors and nurses so hot, there wouldn’t be a problem.

greg_ip By 'overuse' do you mean people who didn't have access will now have access?

greg_ip You know you'll probably see a large spike of use in the first 2 or so years But that's because people who are sick right now will finally be able to afford treatment. Plus it would help in the long run: dealing with minor problems before they become major ones

greg_ip The Wallstreet Journal carrying the water for Fascists as usual

greg_ip Disgusting.

greg_ip .......overuse?

greg_ip over use of health care

greg_ip OVERUSE?

greg_ip You can’t scrap private insurance because then how are the rich going to opt-out after they gut the public system with lobbying and budget cuts?

greg_ip if you people hadn't already ruined ok boomer this would have been the opportunity

greg_ip I think what Greg means to say is that he’s concerned all the lazy, str8, white, Christian Republicans will abuse easy access to care so they can fake illness, call off sick at work and obtain a doctor’s note for free.

greg_ip Hello, doctor? Hi yes, I'll have a skin graft today please.

greg_ip oh my god they actually went there:

greg_ip What a STUPID argument. Over utilization can be managed we do it now in the health ins world.

greg_ip Do y'all hear yourselves? Maybe someone should say these out loud so they are stupidity in print!🤷🏾‍♂️ bluewave2020

greg_ip Get out of here with this shit!!

greg_ip Over use of health care... Are you fucking kidding me. See.. Opioid epidemic for profits.

greg_ip Hmmmm. Overuse of health care, or people going bankrupt because cancer treatment is more expensive here than most of the world? Which seems like the lesser evil?

greg_ip Normally I don’t respond to corporations but goddamn this is a bad take. Literal facts from countries with socialized health care would show you that this is not true. But I get it, actual facts won’t appease your CEO overlords so here we are. So, from the very bottom of my heart

greg_ip Oh ffs

greg_ip You mean people would go to the doctor at the first symptom, instead of waiting until it's become a chronic condition, or progressed to the point it's what will kill them? Dear lord, the horrors. TAX THE FUCKING RICH, DAMMIT.

greg_ip I can see people going to the doctor for things they currently live with because they can't afford to go

greg_ip This is the same argument the Prohibitionists used to ban alcohol use. Everyone was going to become an alcoholic. Yeah. That didn't happen.

greg_ip Wait, so I'm supposed to believe it will be an awful experience ala the DMV, but also people won't be able to help themselves from using it too much?

greg_ip Canadian says no, it doesn't do that.

greg_ip Shucks Guys, then Insurance company CEO’s couldn’t get their multi million dollar bonuses.... RATS 🙄

greg_ip Heaven forfend “overuse of healthcare” people are dying from lack of healthcare! I’ll take a possible overuse if no one has to die from rationing insulin!

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greg_ip Delicious ratio.

greg_ip The wealthy are so desperate to maintain the status quo that they would rather tens of thousands of people a year die if the alternative is some grandma getting an extra blood test.

greg_ip I know every time I’ve maxed out my deductible & copays me & the kids play a game called surgery roulette, we randomly open a medical book & go get work done on that part of the body. It’s great family fun on the weekend.

greg_ip Haves: The unwashed masses will flood the hospitals attempting to not die! Have Nots: .....

greg_ip Then there's the intended consequence where it never happens because Warren is not here to fight for something she adopted for political expediency a few months ago. See, she's a fraud is the thing here. BernieOrBust

greg_ip When you say 'overuse of health care,' you mean 'poor people not dying of preventable causes,' don't you?

greg_ip 'overuse of health care'... really.... that's the concern...

greg_ip Medicare for All would have the intended consequence of people using it. Can’t have that

greg_ip I'm just here for the ratio You suck And I can't wait till your business folds

greg_ip Who exactly wakes up and says, 'I think I will go to the health clinic today to waste my time and their's'? What in the Sam Hill is 'overuse of healthcare'?

greg_ip FATWWTRC

greg_ip I'd rather people overuse their healthcare and then underuse it. As a person who pays $400 a month for catastrophic care, nothing is covered until I've spent $7000 a year , I would love to be able to afford to go to the doctor. Taxing the rich just makes sense.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare is the DUMBEST thing I ever heard. Who LIKES going to the doctor? People only go to the doctor for preventative care and when we’re sick. That’s it. And today, a lot of people can’t afford to do that—even if they have health insurance! M4all will fix that.

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare”

greg_ip ask around among your friends and relatives and you will undoubtedly find at least one that has to be talked into going to the doctor even when it's urgently needed. In what world do you imagine that people are over using healthcare?

greg_ip Like having super expensive coverage doesn’t lead to exactly the same thing. WTF WSJ?

greg_ip lolololol

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care.' Oh my god, does this mean anxious people will get to make appointments with people who may be able to help with anxiety? People who now forego stitches will actually get them? Those who fear bankruptcy might get early treatment for cancer, diabetes, etc

greg_ip The only people who over-use healthcare are the rich with their ridiculous cosmetic surgeries and treatments

greg_ip And by 'overuse' they mean 'ill people who need health care but haven't been born into rich families' Or 'women who got pregnant through rape' Or 'sick children' My, how dreadful! *drops monocle*

greg_ip Oh no don’t let the poors access healthcare, they’ll abuse it 🙄

greg_ip drink my pee

greg_ip yo TheOnion come get your people

greg_ip You mean like seeing a doctor at the first sign of illness instead of waiting until it has progressed and possibly spread to family and coworkers?

greg_ip HEY greg_ip how exactly are you this spectacularly dumb

greg_ip This is literally the dumbest thing I’ve read. So dumb I worry it’s stolen some of my brain cells.

greg_ip Yes- All People LOVE to go to the doctors! Are You freakin kidding me? If all healthcare was absolutely, 💯 free, people will STILL not go to the doctor!

greg_ip 😐😐😮😐😐 So... Basically... If we have Medicare for All not enough people will die? Does this person work in the funeral industry or something? Don't worry, people living longer just means business would only slow down a bit for a few years.

greg_ip Overuse? 😂😂😂

greg_ip So instead let’s keep everyone in their place, you know, sick and broke

greg_ip It’s true, since Canada has free health care I’ve transplanted 2 livers, 3 hearts and several brains into my body

greg_ip Greg needs to go to the doctor more. He is out of touch with reality.

greg_ip You are an embarrassment,

greg_ip Over use of health care? I’m in Canada - a fun Friday night isn’t gathering the squad for weekly Pap smears. clueless

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare” may be the dumbest thing anyone has written all month. Congratulations you played yourself

greg_ip This is the STUPIDEST ever argument. Hey insured people, do YOU go to the doctor for no damn reason? No? Why would others?

greg_ip What exactly is overuse here? Too much diabetes... I know you need to see your PCP and endocrinologist 4 times for this but we only want to cover 3 visits. This is exactly the problem with a middleman who decides what we ‘get’ to utilize. If 4 visits are needed you utilize 4.

greg_ip Pretty sure people prefer staying home than going to the hospital

greg_ip 'Ah yes, the perfect take. Now to kick my feet up and enjoy the engagement'

greg_ip Back in my day you had to Uber to the hospital to skip the ambulance fees. Now these Medicare for all lefties are totally abusing health care by getting checked out by their doctor right when they get sick. Snowflakes.

greg_ip This is the WEAKEST argument against M4All that I’ve ever seen.

greg_ip How dare people see doctors!!! And be healthy!! Oh the HORROR!

greg_ip The Onioniest of headlines and Good Gawd, that ratio!

greg_ip “Overuse” of healthcare? People just like to go to the doctor so much that they will do it for fun? JFC. This is why the GOP is dead.

greg_ip Yes, please no healthy people that, once they're not cornered with dying or going into depth over medical bills, might actually spend time on debating and paying attention to what the rich and the lobbies are doing. Free thinking people harder to control. Can't have that.

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greg_ip What if... And hear me out this is crazy right... People will be healthier over all and won't be at the hospital with more serious things because they went in for initial symptoms. Preventative care is better than reactivate care.

greg_ip This is moronic

It really doesn't, you shameless liars. I've lived in three countries with universal healthcare and that is never the case. What is true is that Elizabeth Warren is a direct threat to your billionaire owner Rupert Murdoch.

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greg_ip “Doctor? Hi, yeah, my back itches but I can’t reach it. Can I make an appointment to come in and get it scratched?”

greg_ip What we have now is underuse of healthcare, leading to unnecessary suffering and death, and overuse of ERs, the most expensive and inefficient way to access heathcare, for basic care.

greg_ip 🙄

greg_ip That's some nice healthcare you got there, Sweden. It would be a shame if you had to use it.

greg_ip ....like there is no overuse, overtreatment and misuse now...?!?

greg_ip Got it , keep them sick , watch them go broke.

greg_ip So the best defense is that people might get too healthy... lol 🤣

greg_ip Oh fuck right off.

greg_ip Is overuse a code for preventative care? Imagine the horrors of living in a society where people don’t have to needlessly suffer!

greg_ip That’s.... not a thing.

greg_ip “Elizabeth Warren’s faux, never going to happen, Medicare for All plan treats the poor like the middle class.” See I fixed it for you.

greg_ip Kys wsj.

greg_ip WTF?

greg_ip Yes because if there’s one thing people love, it’s going to the doctor.

greg_ip The ratio on this tweet is god-like.

greg_ip 'overuse' You think people are going to get 12 flu shots each, or what?

greg_ip These arguments against her are sounding more and more asinine. Like they are getting desperate....I wonder why? ModernDay RobinHood She won't be robbing you! She will take our money from you, legally, and return it to the original sender 😁 Warren2020 LizHasAPlan CuzPeriod

greg_ip *laughs in general practitioners being financially incentivized by opioid industry to over-prescribe*

greg_ip One emergency rooms costs to healthcare is 50xs much higher costs then one office treatment visits. NEXT!!

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' just means you want poor people to die rather than receive emergency care

greg_ip How often does 'overuse of healthcare' cause problems in other single payer healthcare countries?

greg_ip It will be terrible when I show up to my annual and see all those poor people in the lobby who should, alternatively, be dead.

greg_ip Absurd premise, of course there’s a pay firewall.. but this is an old and already discredited argument so can’t read it. Medicare has way more protections and penalties for waste, fraud and abuse than private insurers. Under either M4All plan, these would only be ratcheted up.

greg_ip First people will want to be not sick. Then they'll want preventative care. Where does the madness end?

greg_ip Wow man. Classist much?

greg_ip Or maybe the hoards of people who haven't seen a doctor in a quarter century will get to see one.

greg_ip Ha! You guys are really reaching! 'Overuse'? As in the poor will go to the doctor for every little mole on their very white skin? They'll call in for pain prescriptions when they're too bored at home? That kind of over-use?

greg_ip As opposed to today’s intended consequence of having cost be a de facto form of rationing healthcare. God forbid that all those poor people should want to see a doctor.

greg_ip The Gop is afraid brown people will start to be healthy.

greg_ip I don't understand that line of thought. I just can't. ThursdayThoughts

greg_ip The dumbest thing I have seen all day

greg_ip In Canada, it was assumed that the aging baby boomers were overusing the health system. A proper study revealed it was the 30+ age group that was the dominant user! Visited doctors for every minor ache, pain and sniffle!

greg_ip Like getting moles checked before they become malignant. Because mole removal is way more expensive than chemo.

greg_ip So you're saying the people who use Medicare now are overusing it?

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare. Hahahaha.

greg_ip My family is always telling me how much they love to go to the doctor. It’s not like pulling teeth to get them to go at all. They can’t wait for socialism so they can get extra flu shots.

greg_ip You're broken

greg_ip Oh no, too much health care, the horror!

greg_ip The real message? People can leave terrible jobs. Tell me how this is a bad thing?

greg_ip Feeling like the author's overusing their share of the planet's oxygen more than anything.

greg_ip I think the most disappointing thing of all is that i don't think any candidate has proposed anything at all that will help improve people's health. It's all reactive and not proactive. Promoting good health seems a thing of the past.

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare'? What, like people being able to prevent illness rather than going to the hospital in an Uber on their deathbed?

greg_ip Actually, our employer based healthcare system that we've had for the last 75 or so years has caused the overuse of resources by decoupling cost from activity. That's ALREADY been the system for generations, so this 'editorial' is disingenuous at best.

greg_ip One of the challenges of health care is the appropriate use of it. People need better education about self-care in starting in high school.

greg_ip Good heavens! A non-CEO might want to get that lump looked at.

greg_ip Hahaha, this is is a satirical article right? Haha, good one. Right? Guys? ... GUYS

greg_ip Oh no they might not die at 29 from preventable ketoacidosis bc of insulin rationing, and then we'll have to listen to them say 'ok boomer' for the rest of our lives. The left has finally gone too far.

greg_ip Oh everything is totally fine with me, doc, I just wanted to see how you're doing. You know... because I can.

greg_ip This premise is not only a trope, it’s stupid.

greg_ip You are totally right. People are going to be going to their primary care docs all the time instead of just hitting the ER once when their illness is out of control. So wasteful!

greg_ip This is the stupidest thing I’ve read in a long while ...

greg_ip Well that's just dumb.

greg_ip This a complete fallacy if you have any understanding of healthcare behavior.

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greg_ip Maybe you keep this to yourself and don’t write it because it’s absolutely terrible and ridiculous.

greg_ip Cool, job creation!

greg_ip Overuse of health care ? WTF too many people getting sick unnecessarily ! This is the sort of stuff you can expect if the Tories win GE2019 & sell off the NHS to the Americans !! DontVoteTory VoteToryGetPutin

greg_ip When a person has access to healthcare, overuse goes down. They no longer have to rely on the emergency room for chronic illnesses.

greg_ip Politicians are great on the delivery of shiny new objects when what we really need is something Teflon.

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greg_ip The canadian 'social' is just a loosely planned hang out in waiting rooms at hospitals and clinics. Just grab a coffee read an out dated tattered mag and see the doctor for whatevs.

greg_ip I'm impressed that people will be able to get bonus surgeries for fun after waiting on the lines for months to get basic needs without the free market.....

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greg_ip Doc, I’m here for my bone biopsy! What, it’s you’re third one this week? Ok, c’mon you, I’ll get the needle ready 🤗

greg_ip ok boomer

greg_ip Yes millions of healthy people will now just go to the doc to pass the time

greg_ip Ya, people gonna overuse cancer treatment and fixing broken bones. So incredibly out of touch with reality.

greg_ip the unintended consequence will be the quality of health care with her payment plan .. Medicare payment schedule is unacceptable, and we need a private option ewarren

greg_ip This is why high schools need to stop teaching Capitalism 101 and calling it “Economics.” At least be honest and call it Religion. It’s really a class in indoctrination.

greg_ip Guess what, beautiful people? Most of us have trouble prying time away from our drone jobs that pay peanuts to go to the doctor now. Making it more affordable or free won’t change that. The greater majority of us would rather be anywhere than an ER on a Saturday night or ever

greg_ip I broke my toe just to see what happens

greg_ip Because medical care is so much fun we’ll be going to the doctor recreationally?

greg_ip If that's what you think Medicare for all is, you havent seen free healthcare in NHS or Canada. It is cheap and doesn't bankrupt anyone, but it sure doesn't mean people overuse it or can easily misuse it

greg_ip I thought this was they onion at first.

greg_ip Yeah, kind of not a problem in the dozens of non-banana republics that have it.

greg_ip ' overuse', I wake up everyday itching to go to the emergency room, GTFOH

greg_ip People might be able to afford to buy guillotines en masse?

greg_ip Warren’s plan is a poor idea and should be tossed, but I know for a fact that overuse of health care is not a consequence, intended or otherwise. I’ve been countless times-never as a patient- and I’ve never seen the overcrowding there as I do at the hospitals here in the US.

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greg_ip Duuuude, people go unnecessarily NOW just to get stupid referrals for the insurance companies. How about instead of the insurance companies telling us what we need to do for our healthcare, we can let the doctors do that.

greg_ip Oh that’s fun. “Overuse of healthcare” is the wake word for the army of sentient billionaire-hunting guillotines all of us poors have been building in our plague shanties.

greg_ip What kills me is that a whole group of folks thought this inanity was a good take. I mean a blog post with just the writer hitting post I could understand...

greg_ip This is ludicrous. Full stop.

greg_ip I thought this was an TheOnion article before I realized that, no, it wasn't satire, it was just a not very well thought out article by someone that hasn't been at mercy of our current sick care system, yet.

greg_ip You spent good ink on the dumbest argument ever.

greg_ip omg

greg_ip Really ? Is that what your case study on public health in other countries indicates? No, I thought not. You’re just pandering to some billionaires. Stop it!

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greg_ip Hi. Canadian here. This is bogus. Dear Americans, it’s just big corps trying to scare you. Medicare works. (As every other developed country also shows.)

greg_ip lol i can go to the doctor for free and still don't unless im coughing up blood

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare. That’s really good. I think I’ll sit this broken arm out, cuz I sure don’t want to overuse my healthcare.

greg_ip Everybody has pointed out, correctly, that this sentiment I morally reprehensible, but are we also discussing how, in our current system, doctors, specialists, and hospitals routinely push unnecessary tests and procedures onto worried patients?

greg_ip Medical care that isn't reliant on your gofundme? Scary!

greg_ip Is it really WSJ writing this? I thought you guys made journalism.

greg_ip Less people dead from preventable or easily treated health problems isn’t a BAD THING, WSJ.

greg_ip Ohhh God.

greg_ip Shiit-take

greg_ip 'overuse of health care' Afraid people will get too healthy?

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greg_ip It's so true, I'm perfectly healthy but I'm in the local doctors - for no good reason at all - morning, noon and night, just so I can roll around in my taxpayer funded free health care. I'm thinking of snapping my leg just so I can get a free rehab boot 👍

greg_ip Stupid premise, stretching limits to support.

greg_ip How dare people would use healthcare and how dare they would not die. Because what we have now is better?

greg_ip Oh no, sick people would seek treatment when they are sick. We can't have that can we? We all know if it was cheap we'd be at the doctor all the time because it's so much fun. Honestly, some people probably would abuse it, but the majority would benefit massively from it.

greg_ip You mean more Americans would try to make sure they are healthy on a regular basis?

greg_ip All the big media outlets going after Warren now. They're terrified that their billion dollar bonuses might get taxed so that hardworking Americans might get health care. Look up sheep! People are dying from rationing their meds.

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' so you are suggesting that requiring affordable access to care creates hypochondriacs? Got news for you, Japan isn't full of those, and we basically have 'required' care access. Includes free testing for various stuff like cancer via employer and city.

greg_ip Wall Street hates Warren, they know she’s a hawk eyeing their ass

greg_ip These fools really said overuse lmao. Meanwhile rich folk getting Botox covered and want to keep that plan!!

greg_ip Just like those damn old people who overuse Medicare, making it a bloated, inefficient, and much more expensive health care system. Oh, wait....

greg_ip Oh FFS. It’s not as if the US is pioneering this new approach to healthcare. There are plenty of examples to draw on, where one can plainly see that ^THIS^ DOES NOT HAPPEN!

greg_ip Q: Why, exactly, is preventative healthcare a problem? A: It isn’t, but we’re out of ways to make people fear Medicare for All.

greg_ip Bitch please... Even if I didn’t have to pay to go to a doctor, I still fucking don’t want to. The issue with the current system is that I have to tell myself I shouldn’t go when I know I probably should.

greg_ip OMG - people will overuse healthcare? That’s the best excuse you’ve got not to have a decent healthcare plan?

greg_ip Sure I'll just head to the Dr every week, its nice to have someone to talk to.... This is the dumbest argument ever

greg_ip Exactly! more shots! more waiting rooms! more surgery! I WANNA OVERUSE THE FUCK OUTTA SOME DOCTORS!

greg_ip “Mmmm that sweet, sweet healthcare. I can’t WAIT to get tests I don’t need and spend unnecessary hours in healthcare service providers just to eat up government funds.” - No One

greg_ip I live in the UK. We have the NHS here (for now, until a post-Brexit trade deals allows y'all over there to get your paws on it). I can guarantee you NOBODY is going to the Doctor or the hospital for funsies over here. We see it as a service, which is to be used when we need it.

greg_ip This thread👇🏼

greg_ip Why is it that every dem candidate has a health program...in the face if zero options from GOP. So you want to criticize one of them? Come up w an alternative then, assbite!

greg_ip This is the dumbest thing ever. Yes let’s all overuse healthcare and stay healthy! Wall Street is so invested in all the industries making us sick. “Food” and pharmaceuticals.

greg_ip Derp, derp derpity derp 'Can I have an extra cast on my broken ankle?' Nice ratio you got here, dipshit.

greg_ip Get free ice cream with each hospital visit.

greg_ip Right. If people have access to affordable healthcare, we’ll, it’s just so much fucking fun to go to the gyn, I might ask for TWO paps. Medicare4All Party4All

greg_ip lol. Here in Germany we use health care when we need it. As it should be.

greg_ip Yes! Because people love being sick and going to the doctor. Delete your account boomer

greg_ip Maybe that will be a problem. As long as people who have health insurance have to risk their lives by rationing meds they can no longer afford it’s not our biggest concern.

greg_ip 1. I am not in favor of Medicare for all. 2. This may be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

greg_ip OH NO!! NOT THAT!

greg_ip Overuse of health care... what kind of ableist nonsense is that?

greg_ip Seriously? You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with this 'objection' to Warren's plan. Apparently your point is that people might become too healthy. So embarrassing for you!

greg_ip Once Liz is President, I’m totally getting rid of this extra kidney. It’s the reason I can’t get into my skinny jeans.

greg_ip Problems with overuse, you say? OK story time: shortly after coming to the US, I popped into a clinic and said “hey can I get an ice pack and some tape - I sprained my thumb”. Anywhere else, they probably would have taken a quick look and given me ice and tape... [1/2]

greg_ip You mean people might actually be proactive in their healthcare?

greg_ip Moronic elitist article.

greg_ip this might be the dumbest argument against medicare for all

greg_ip I've stolen so much Canadian health care I've transformed into HEALTH BEAST, roaming the lands in a berserker rage

greg_ip By overuse of healthcare, I'm guessing you mean like... physicals, not rationing medicine, and not having their chronic pain ignored?

greg_ip conservatives threatening us with a good time yet again

greg_ip It’s an excellent point. Ever since they decided that oxygen would be available to all, those joggers have been overusing it. We need to go back to the oxygen meters and when you’ve used your allotment you are cut off until Jan 1. It just makes sense.

greg_ip *snort*

greg_ip The premise that for example a pediatric cardiovascular surgeon will give 'less care' to his/her patients as a result of POSSIBLY making less per year is obscene scaremongering, esp if any of these plans go hand in hand with erasing student debt. The bank rats are trembling.

greg_ip Hear hear! Poor, sick people simply can’t be trusted with healthcare! Now bring me my housecoat. This wing gets so drafty.

greg_ip greg_ip is a bit of a jerk. Going to see a doctor should be a right, but this guy thinks it'll be over used?! Because people like sitting in waiting rooms where he's from I guess...

greg_ip Give me a break.

greg_ip Healthcare overuse: Not even once.

greg_ip Just say you don't think poor people deserve healthcare and go

greg_ip As if I am not, at this very moment, actively procrastinating on fasting blood work and a colonoscopy.

greg_ip Overuse of health care You mean poor people getting health care?

greg_ip The UK is suffering and the US needs to take notice. Because of EU run Trafficking UK pop has exploded by 20million more than it should be with immigrants using a service they overstretched. Gov'ts will never tell u u must pay 30% more in tax to allow for this so they just CUT

greg_ip Here for the ratio

greg_ip .ewarren’s plan is NOT a plan! She doesn’t have one! She’s offering a plan that she doesn’t know how she’s going to pay for it! Sigh

greg_ip this is a fake problem

greg_ip Part of the article, drs making less money as a Dr would pursue other jobs. We are not all doctor's now.

greg_ip This is dumb and not a deterrent. Telling me I might be able to overuse my healthcare doesn't turn me off in any way at all.

greg_ip This is why people mock the WSJ.

greg_ip It’s not “overuse” if you get necessary care that you were formerly unable to get because you couldn’t afford it. That’s called “fairness” and “humanity.”

greg_ip Lmao greg this is dumb as hell

greg_ip We have universal healthcare in Canada and I still have to pressure all the ppl in my life to actually go to a doctor when they’re sick. Ppl are still gunna be stubborn and not wanna see a doc even if they aren’t paying out of pocket lmao

greg_ip Gawd forbid that the peasants are healthy. Next thing you know, they'll be living longer!

greg_ip The majority of people against this all claim to be Christian's and we all know Jesus was all about fucking the poor over.

greg_ip Conservative newspaper craps on Medicare for all, not surprised.

greg_ip Yeah the poors might get too healthy.

greg_ip Yes, the AMA just posted a comprehensive report stating that going to the doctor is bad for your health

greg_ip sounds like greg just really likes going to the doctor most people i know have to be dragged there even if they are fully covered

greg_ip I guess if the wsj is going to put a biased, exclusionary opinion into a tweet as a statement, it’s great that the opinion is so clearly wrong and dumb. The only ppl who’ll buy that BS are the ones already watching Fox.

greg_ip OH FFS! Let’s adopt a GOP plan that is basically buck up, suck it up, don’t seek treatment &die

greg_ip When logically defending a for-profit system of health care fails, spread fear. I prefer the freedom from dying or going bankrupt over my health, to the current freedom to chose which HMO that will cut me off when it's needed most. freedom

greg_ip Seriously?! This is not a thing- go do some real journalism

greg_ip Ya who wants to be healthy? Rather starve and have my kids sick

greg_ip Maybe Greg Ip should have 'overused' some health care and gotten those brain worms looked at before they took over.

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greg_ip Ohhhh! TOO MUCH health care! Lord, Lord! Why should we all be healthy?

greg_ip Really bad take

greg_ip This is fear mongering.

greg_ip Lol. The alternative is people dying. So... I’m good.

greg_ip Oh no

greg_ip I’d say the “overuse of healthcare” would be doctors and pharma getting rich off of the opioid crisis while 10s of 1000s of my fellow Americans were poisoned by people they trusted.

greg_ip You guys have been scared of ewarren for awhile lol

greg_ip Ah, the issue is that poor people won't die as quickly. Got it.

greg_ip Medicare has caps in place for specialist visits already. Article is fear mongering for private healthcare companies. So sad and full of BS

greg_ip Omg seriously.

greg_ip Ffs.. this ain’t it and I shouldn’t have to tell you.

greg_ip They just don't want to give Americans healthcare. These hit pieces are crazy.

greg_ip I work for the British NHS. I am proud to work for the NHS. I'm not communist. .partly socialist. Socialist healthcare is some of the best in the world. It's not perfect but we don't go bankrupt if we need surgery.

greg_ip Billionaires panic

greg_ip Hypochondriacs out here going yassss bring it

greg_ip Overuse of health care.

greg_ip 'Overuse' by people who need healthcare for chronicle health conditions you mean.

greg_ip Well that would mean a oom in healthcare jobs now wouldn't it!! A stronger workforce!! And a stronger economy also!! That is the definition of tax dollars being put to work!! not just for the rich, BUT FOR US ALL!!!

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare or people dying without. My family has a great plan. We don’t abuse it but we do seek healthcare when needed. Give me a break.

greg_ip 'I wanna have a bunch of surgeries on my heart! Hell yeah, free stuff!'

greg_ip Well, aren't you sounding like a Trump. Testing the waters for how you can control the narrative. You like this notion of 'overusing' UHC. This is the second test shot I've seen from you in the last day. Good luck. I see you fading...fading...

greg_ip 🙄

greg_ip This is why we can't have nice things.

greg_ip Warren health plan count with many inconsistencies only Buttigieg confronted.

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greg_ip Living in the UK, I can tell you it's not the case. Maybe Greg should actually consider doing some research or keeping silent, rather than writing and proving he's an uninformed idiot.

greg_ip 'People will actually use healthcare from now on. This is a big problem'. -the wall street journal

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare.” If only.

greg_ip You maybe want to read about the way Americans use healthcare now. How much money is spent staving off the inevitable during the last six months of someone’s life?

greg_ip You've reimagined Yogi Berra's 'No one goes there any more: it's too crowded' to public health policy.' Congrats!

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare 😳 Yep. I plan on 3 Pap smears a year just because I can 🤦🏼‍♀️🙄 GetTheFuckOuttaHere with your Idiocracy Warren2020 Medicare4All VoteBlue

greg_ip Can you actually point to this *actually happening* in countries with similar policies? Is this a problem in, say, Finland? Do you have any actual *EVIDENCE*? For supposed rational analysts, y'all don't seem to bother to do any rational analyzing.

greg_ip This is SO stupid. As an American living in Australia I can honestly say everyone still hates going to the doctor. Luckily we don’t have to avoid it here due to fear of the bill at the end. 🤦🏼‍♀️

greg_ip And here I thought economists would be the first to buy into the concept of a product with higher user rates being considered the one to invest in. If public healthcare were a Dow Jones company...

greg_ip Y'all. Are. Making. Sht. Up.

greg_ip Imagine, if you will, a healthy population!

greg_ip Do you folks actually consider the logic and statistical analysis behind these claims or do you just run with the first thought that rattles around in the old tin can?

greg_ip yes. let's instead keep getting exploited by for profit companies. that feels much nicer.

greg_ip Why does Rupert Murdoch hate America? And AU & EU? Garbage. Shame on you. Also, perhaps if doctors, dentists, nurses, specialist & technician education more supported & subsidized, practitioners wouldn't fall into six digit debt, attracting more to serve medical professions.

greg_ip Oh please!! I have a friend who is having pain that could be appendicitis and she hasn’t gone to be checked because she still “owes” from her last surgery! That sh*t’s just not right!

greg_ip Beware of the misinformation from and greg_ip

greg_ip Damned if you do! Damned if you don't! The only perfect medical solution is if no one ever gets born or gets sick! Other than that, there's no perfect solution. Instead of bickering & whining, let's do something & make it better. This is The USA!

greg_ip Just because the wealthy use their wealth to get plastic surgery, botox and other other unnecessary 'healthcare', doesn't mean everyone will.

greg_ip Consequences of overuse of healthcare such as life instead of death? The “less that 1 percenters” would continue to share the planet with the begrudging elite who would prefer that they did not?

greg_ip Clearly written by someone with absolutely no experience or understanding of how this has worked in other countries.

greg_ip Greg like the idea of for profit death panels system that is currently used. People are paid bonuses for denying your claim or having you die before treatment is approved.

greg_ip 👀 Wsj - people will go to doctors The horror.

greg_ip bullshit

greg_ip Isn't that sort of what you want? I mean it's better than underuse, right?

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare”... cause we all enjoy being sick so much. Never heard bigger BS before

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' is a phrase that could only exist in late stage capitalism.

greg_ip Hey doc, make it a DOUBLE bypass!

greg_ip bullshit

greg_ip Boomer no.

greg_ip See other OECD countries. Seems like a silly concern.

greg_ip I was bored the other day so I went to the ER and demanded THE WORKS. If America has free healthcare it'll be the tax payers paying for my weekly checklist of tests that I definitely get.

greg_ip I'm sure there will be a surge in doctor visits and stuff in the beginning. So many people don't get regular checkups or have issues they dont wanna get fixed because of lack insurance

greg_ip They coin a phrase but don’t remember to say it out loud . Overuse the health care system is a dream I aspire to

greg_ip WTF WHAT!? WAIT, WHAT!?

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' ? OMG. Just write 'let them eat cake.'

greg_ip Hey, should you have that lump on your neck checked out? Nah, it's probably a slow forming cancerous growth that'll eventually kill me but I had a bunyon removed last month and I don't want to overuse my health care. The more you try to take her down, the more I like her.

greg_ip I’m grateful everyday to live in a country with free healthcare & pay tax towards it. Last time I went to the doctors was for a routine scan 3 years ago.. or maybe a free travel jab since then. So yeah overuse a huge problem 🤔 Healthcare should be a right not a privilege

greg_ip I’m going to let anyone currently working in a emergency room handle this one. 🤦🏼‍♀️

greg_ip Is this for real?

greg_ip What is the world coming to. Lots and lots of healthcare

greg_ip I’m trying to wrap my head around this. So overusing health care services is worse than not being able to use them at all?

greg_ip Person with M4A: Hey ya want to go to the beach? Another person with M4A: I have a better idea, let's go to the hospital and sit around for a while. Person 1: Ya that's so much better, let's do that. Am I missing something?

greg_ip God beware ppl got the chance to go to check-ups, cancer scans or address their medical needs before they turn into actual problems. Has anyone calculated how much money it would save to treat things and not wait until patients land in the ICU - but I guess suffering‘s cheaper?

greg_ip Oh the humanity!

greg_ip Maybe you should try see what healthcare overuse looks like for a bit.

greg_ip And yet in Europe, that's not happening. But cool story, bro.

greg_ip Americans are dying rationing their insulin.

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greg_ip As opposed to being sold loads of unnecessary drugs & treatments in the name of making more profit? Sure, Jan.

greg_ip Hell yeah! If was covered by a universal program, the first thing I'd do is start going to the doctor's office just for fun.

greg_ip WTF, a large swath of Americans don’t go to the doctor BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT. Some type of Medicare for all will save ME money on my taxes because they will have access to preventative care. Jesus.

greg_ip oh no, everyone gets the chance to be and stay healthy, what a horible world some people live in, to deny those afflicted with illness that a country would deny them the access they so rightly require.

greg_ip Jesus F Christ... I hope your healthcare covers strains because you're grasping pretty hard for arguments there

greg_ip Da'fug?

greg_ip This guy is a very stable genius.

greg_ip I overused the health system so much that I now have superpowers

greg_ip Oooohhhhhhh Possible change is sooooooo scary! Idiots.

greg_ip Whereas an insurance-based healthcare system *guarantees* the overuse of healthcare by some and complete inaccessibility to others!

greg_ip Is this a real fucking article?

greg_ip What a load of shit.

greg_ip Jesus Christ 🤦🏼‍♀️

greg_ip Because people love going to the doctor for recreational entertainment purposes.

greg_ip Translation: 'Oh, no, big pharmas won't make enough money if people are too healthy.'

greg_ip I guess an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure doesn't mean what I thought?

greg_ip Kinda' like when kids want two bandages and there's not even a scratch?

greg_ip What is “overuse of healthcare”? 🧐

greg_ip Yeah, we don’t go much for trick-or treating in the UK. In autumn, kids here go round all the NHS doctors & walk-in clinics to collect as many ‘flu jabs as they can. They brandish their slightly-bruised arms in school & compare inoculation sites. Kid with the most plasters wins.

greg_ip So true. When I was having radiation burn my belly, and chemo was making my hair fall out, I was just scheming to find a way to have more.

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greg_ip Bull💩 scare tactic.

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greg_ip 'Overuse of health care?' Does this idiot think people are going to get sick on purpose just to see the inside of a medical facility?

greg_ip Can you explain what this 'overuse of healthcare' is exactly? Are you implying that people in this country are currently using their healthcare exactly and to the extend that it is normally used and by making healthcare available to everyone is an 'overuse'. MedicareForAll

greg_ip The NHS is good, actually, you Americans should try having one yourselves.

greg_ip Omg I cant wait for Warren's health care access.. thing.😯 It's expensive head tax, 10 year solvency and strange tax brackets are so intoxicating. 😍 I'm gunna hang out at the hospital just to see all the people getting healed with obscure policy and high costs.

greg_ip Yes- when I have free time, I often think about going for an X-ray. MedicareForAll

greg_ip Well with such an inviting program its no wonder that establishment republicans have been winning so many elections of late.

greg_ip Overuse of health care? You Reaganites really are inhuman.

greg_ip Or maybe doctors won't feel the need to push unnecessary but lucrative treatments and tests like they do now.

I know I can't stand the idea of thinking, 'Man, this seems like a medical issue that I should get looked at' and actually being able to afford it

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greg_ip Me: Test my ovaries, dammit! Dr: Um... Mr Gray, you don't h- Me: THEN PUT SOME IN!

greg_ip I love how WSJ is connecting Warren to M4A with this headline, that way people will associate the plan with someone who has no intention of passing the legislation.

greg_ip That is totally not the issue, . The issue is her cockamamy funding plan. There is a reason every other nation does it through income tax or uses payroll funds.

greg_ip Um, what, exactly, is “overuse of healthcare”?

greg_ip So, you can't think of serious argument against M4A?

greg_ip America is dumb, Foxgl0ve writes

greg_ip 'Imagine! Instead of people having to choose to treat only one of dad's hernia, son's depression, mom's arthritis, or grandpa's pneumonia not to go /too/ bankrupt, they would treat all four! The entitlement of these anti-patriotic socialists has no bounds!'

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare', it's like people will start maintaining their health in a PREVENTATIVE fashion or something.

greg_ip Overuse bandaids and save on surgeries.

greg_ip Whatever

greg_ip Having worked in healthcare economics... no. Short, sharp, no. Plus, any costs are ultimately reversed by the benefits of a healthy populace. While there *are* risks to ‘overconsumption’ of healthcare, train clinical staff on how to manage and mitigate for that; problem solved.

greg_ip It is a particular form of evil that America has made contempt for the poor and working classes a virtue. This is a sick country.

greg_ip We are already seeing billions wasted by the Medical community when they over-treat & over-medicate.

greg_ip I see that you all are managing your health and are making sure that any genetic anomalies that you were born with or taken care of. This is a tragedy. We have gone... Healthy. The horror.

greg_ip I live in New Zealand with socialized medical care. This isn't a thing, you fear-mongering wealth hoarders.

greg_ip What is 'overuse of healthcare'. Serious question.

greg_ip Man, she really lives rent free in your head

greg_ip What is wrong with you? Do you want to go to work with sick people? Do you want food fixed and served by sick people? Do you want children to go to school with sick children and be taught by a sick teacher? Let's have everyone get healthy!

greg_ip The fuck is overuse of health care?

greg_ip Can’t wait till she’s president so I can get bored on a Friday night and go wait in my doctor’s office for hours and hours for free 😏

greg_ip Ahem... 'overuse' of healthcare? How exactly does that work?

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' = People actually going to the doctor when they're sick.

greg_ip Not the greatest theory.....

greg_ip WSJ deathpannel decides: You may be getting too much healthcare.

greg_ip Delete your account.

greg_ip Is this 'Those Who Walk Away From Omelas'?

greg_ip Who wrote this tow rag.

greg_ip lol

greg_ip I have a question for you , I'm wondering how much $ is givin to each state for allowing refugees and illegal immigrants to immigrate to a state ? But I also want to know how much funding there is per person or child for schooling , housing , tax credits ect. ?

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greg_ip Yes, the dreaded overuse of healthcare argument. Maybe we would all just be trying to catch up from years of underuse of healthcare, which is an actual real thing.

greg_ip Healthy deplorables. Oh no!

greg_ip Yes, let’s pick apart Warren’s healthcare plan instead of pointing out the GOP has no plan other than cuts to the existing plan.

greg_ip I thought Scrooge died in this story.

greg_ip Wasn't overuse of health care responsible for the opiate epidemic? At least Senator Warren's plan covers the back-end.

greg_ip BAHAHAHAHAHA most people hate going to the doctor! Just look at every other public healthcare country. We're doing a-ok here in Canada, motherfucker 🍁

greg_ip Here in Germany I had chemotherapy just for the craic!

greg_ip Yeah I overuse the healthcare here in the UK. I hope to be a god by next Tuesday as I'm just too healthy.

greg_ip Gee, more people might actually use it for their needs, instead of not addressing health issues. What a horrible thought.

greg_ip Omg they will use healthcare. Next up will Americans actually use their gym membership!!!

greg_ip This reminded me I'm overdue for my next organ removal, bless the german healthcare system

greg_ip Pffft.

greg_ip Overuse of health care. Right, like if you're poor and you've never had access to a doctor you might suddenly take advantage for you and your family. Truly an unintended consequence.

greg_ip Lol you write for a toilet paper publication

greg_ip “The best thing about our current healthcare system is that none of the care is wasted on dirty poors.”

greg_ip Oh please. You don’t think Doctors over-test and over-treat insurance holders today because they know the patient isn’t paying out of pocket

greg_ip WTAF does 'overuse of healthcare' mean? There are two endpoints. Healthy and dead. Between those two points fits 'healthcare' and its function is to move you to the healthy end, and stops when you reach the other end. Sorry if that cuts into your juicy profits.

greg_ip OvErUsE oF HeALtHcArE.... just repeat that back to yourself.

greg_ip Quite possibly the stupidest story I've seen all year and there's been some competition.

greg_ip “I’m bored, wanna cruise down the surgery for a pointless blood test?”

greg_ip Overuse of health is better than having none

greg_ip 'Overusing' is just using it as much as a rich person does.

greg_ip This is stupid

greg_ip What the hell is overuse? Ah, yes, I know. Can't have us peasants being healthy in droves, you know. We might come to expect it on a regular basis.

greg_ip What does that even mean? 🙄

greg_ip It will be so terrible when people can afford to go to the doctor.

greg_ip So I actually read the article, and all of the points made ignore the fact that PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY DYING FROM INACCESSIBLE HEALTH CARE. Doesn't matter how many doctors there are if no one can afford to visit them.

greg_ip Yes, people will just be jumping into traffic now.

greg_ip Me and the rest of Canada:

greg_ip That's my plan. To go to the dr when I am sick.

greg_ip Hey I would love to read your shit article about how it’s better for poor people to die than for us to spend money, but it’s behind a paywall and I’d prefer not to pay you to write shit articles about how it’s better for poor people to die than for us to spend money.

greg_ip Well greg_ip needs to comprehend that we're afforded the RIGHT to healthcare. We shouldn't be punished for living. Maybe greg should be stripped of any benefits given to prove a point.

greg_ip Poor people should loot every mansion in sight, and just obliterate the 1%. Sounds harsh, but at least then those that block us from fighting climate change would be out of the way. Our species doesn't have time to coddle the Ritchie Riches anymore. Fuck em.

greg_ip As a pharmacist aka free med resource 24/7 when Dr. Google quacks/Dr. Oz recommends charcoal (is that on the BBQ aisle)/ you self-treated a “rash” for weeks— WE are NOT qualified to treat that oozing wound please, please start over utilizing the rest of the healthcare system 🙏🏻

greg_ip Hard to come up with a dumber take than that.

greg_ip The true tragedy is 10 years from now when doctors go out of business because everyone is TOO healthy. Madness.

greg_ip Wow, what if poor people could actually go to the doctor when something is wrong or for prevention and wellness, even? What if middle class folks could be treated without fear of outrageous deductibles, expensive copays and bankruptcy? What a problem that would be. wtf m4a

greg_ip What a load of crap!

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greg_ip People do not enjoy going to the doctor. Currently people need to go to a doctor, don't want to and can't afford to.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? What the hell does that even mean? That logic would make sense if everyone in America was a hypochondriac

greg_ip What, exactly, the fuck is 'overuse of healthcare?' Who's out here going to the doctor for fun, Greg

greg_ip WTAF! 'Oh, no, we can't have sick people and their families finally be able to afford to go to the doctor! They might actually get healthier and not die, suffer, or cost taxpayers more money by having to wait until their illness is bad enough for more expensive ER treatment!'

greg_ip Calling my doctor’s office, “yes hi, I’d like to schedule a kidney transplant...uh huh...no, it’s just I’ve had these ones for almost 40 years and I’m just ready for a change, you know?...ok...great, see you next week.”

greg_ip Headline should say: Can’t you people just die quicker?

greg_ip So, wait... So people will lead healthier lives? Isn't that the point?!?!

greg_ip Yeah, folks being health will ruin the entire plan. Can't have people living to actually collect the social security they were forced to pay into all their working lives...no no no, that just won't do!

greg_ip He assumes we consume healthcare like other good. “Ooh - Im thirsty; I fancy a coke. Ooh - I have healthcare - I’ll go break my ankle.” If healthcare cost drives people away from moral hazard, then Americans should be the healthiest, slimmest in developed world. Spoiler alert....

greg_ip How many of you WSJ types take advantage of preventive healthcare? Isn't early detection and treatment of heart disease, diabeates and cancer cheaper than late stages? Thought so.

greg_ip I, for one, would go to the doctor every day just for fun if it was free

greg_ip Yeah, you know, my kids are always asking to go to the doctor. Sometimes we just go for fun and we're not even sick: SAID NO ONE EVER

greg_ip I read this article, and now I am suffering from overuse of the WSJ.

greg_ip Maybe check with um...Canada before writing such an irresponsible article.

greg_ip Compare and contrast with opposition to the introduction of the NHS in the UK...

greg_ip Americans are so dumb 💀

greg_ip Yeahright! I'm just dying to get a colonoscopy every week.

greg_ip Only in a country where people avoid seeking medical help because of the fear of costs, could a headline like this written.

greg_ip Right, we don't want The Poors getting uppity and thinking they have the right to be TOO healthy. After all, our third wives need fresh snail snot injections and doctor-administered taint bleaching.

greg_ip Says the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch. Pfft. Do you mean to write this trash, or it just falls out of your malformed keyboards like cows fertilizing a field?

greg_ip What does that even mean?

greg_ip Here we are in the UK with our free healthcare, constantly making appointments with our doctors when we stub our toe. What a joke.

greg_ip You could be focussing on the flaws in her policy, which are notable, and her failure to answer questions on any specifics, instead you present the most laughable argument against single payer health care yet, people shouldn’t have health care, what if they use it?! Astounding...

greg_ip Wow, if only we all lived in such a world! Overuse of healthcare seems like an excellent problem to solve instead of bankruptcies, untreated disease and death from lack of access to affordable care.

greg_ip You mean to say “Poor people will get too healthy”, right

greg_ip That’s not a real thing, media. Nice try.

greg_ip Because people want to hang out in their doctor's office and get prescriptions for drugs with listed side effects as long as their arm.

greg_ip God forbid poor ppl try to live a longer life.

greg_ip Wow, just imagine the horror of that, WSJ.

greg_ip This is the epitome of a Gish gallop.

greg_ip What do you want to do tonight? Hey, let's get another flu shot!

greg_ip Balance that out against the intended consequence of the current system of people dieing because of having no insurance...or bankruptcy ...or being stuck in a bad job because of pre-existing conditions. Stop America...you can have universal health insurance..it isn’t even hard.

greg_ip Cause going to doctors is SO MUCH FUN!! 🙄

greg_ip Bernie isn't scrapping private healthcare, he's scrapping private health insurance. And you're pretending you don't understand this.

greg_ip How, exactly, does one “overuse“ their healthcare

greg_ip That's the stupidest fuken thing I've read all day. I feel like I lost a couple of points just reading the headline.

greg_ip Uh oh! Don’t let people be healthy! That’s an insane idea!!!

greg_ip Wow. That’s pretty fucking stupid. Congrats!

greg_ip How does someone hoarde healthcare?

greg_ip Bummer, I guess I overused that ambulance and lifeflight and those days in the MICU where they discharged me without even finding out why they couldn’t stabilize me for four hours. Dear God. Overuse, my ass. Any use is overuse to greg_ip . This is eugenics for disabled people.

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greg_ip overuse of health care, also known as use of health care

greg_ip I'm an Australian male and no doctor would dare stop me getting unneeded pregnancy tests and pap smears. I also have an extra leg just because it's FREE!

greg_ip Sure, I’m gonna love spending more time seeing the docs!

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greg_ip Lol, who goes to a hospital waiting room more than they absolutely have to? The entitlement is sickening here. Cmon Greg... come on.

greg_ip Wonder where Wall Street Journals advertisers come from and whom many shareholders are?...🧐🤔🤨! 🖕🏿partisan corporate news! Name says it all

greg_ip Literally same fear before ACA, the reality: the less people are covered the more likely use of ERs for pseudo primary care, which is a huge burden on our healthcare system

greg_ip What the fuck is wrong with you?

greg_ip I have my issues with Warren’s plan, but this is just a dumb take.

greg_ip Strolling in on my Medicare for All like

greg_ip Stopping by on a Friday night just to relax

greg_ip I have free physicals and pay $5 a visit. They still have to lasso me to get me to see the doctor. That's most people

greg_ip As opposed to underuse of healthcare that lets thousands of people die every year

greg_ip I am embarrassed for the WSJ.

greg_ip 'People could end up being too healthy.' You people are seriously journalists? Or do you think people will make a hobby of going to the hospital instead of going to the beach to slowly die from lack of healthcare but at least get a nice tan for their open casket?

greg_ip I didn't know walterowensgrpa was writing articles for Wall Street Journal - good for you, Walter! 😋

greg_ip Overuse of health care! Oh Lord 🤣🤣🤣

greg_ip Getting my wisdom teeth taken out one at a time because I just love using healthcare

greg_ip Aaaaaaaand blocked!!

greg_ip What the fuck is overuse of healthcare?

greg_ip The simple affordable health care is the simple way to get secured about health care issue, it’s available at low cost .

greg_ip Hey WSJ, I just renewed my health care for the low low price of $602.11/mo. This is cost before appointments & my 8 regular prescriptions that keep me vaguely functional. I am UNDER-treated because my plan likes denying coverage for services they claim are routine for my age.

greg_ip X-ray, ultra sound, and MRI all performed when 1 would suffice is a feature of for-profit health care rather than a universal health care system.

greg_ip Wtf is overuse of healthcare? And no, I won't read the article. That would be rewarding the headline writer.

greg_ip I’m glad the WSJ is taking the unpopular stance that Americans should be dying from preventable medical conditions than they are now. Your editorial board is so brave. You should all get medals of honor for your service to America.

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greg_ip Oh FFS

greg_ip 'overuse of health care'? c'mon, this ish is getting threadbare

greg_ip It might be behind the paywall, but how exactly does one *overuse* health care? 🤨

greg_ip I don't understand what is meant by 'overuse of healthcare''...?

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' WTAF? In countries with universal healthcare, people live longer.

greg_ip Hey Greg, what's the appropriate amount of healthcare for me to use? Do you measure it in minutes?

greg_ip how's that piece on the opium epidemic going? what about the one on how crack was pushed onto the black community? the one on forced sterilizations? the one on border separation trauma? the one on rising rates of suicide? the one on homeless people about to start freezing? the o-

greg_ip Try being denied medical insurance for 19 years due to the preexisting condition of ALLERGIES.

greg_ip WSJ, as a health care professional who had worked in the industry for 38 years, let me tell you this is WAY OFF THE MARK. Patient behavior, physician behavior, and administration all skew toward greater efficiency in the proposed Medicare For All model than under current state.

greg_ip Wow the amount of shit that comes out of the WSJ is truly Trump level. This is not the case in Australia or European countries for example.

greg_ip Good to see the rich telling on themselves so early in the game.

greg_ip Like, health care?

greg_ip Please define 'Overuse of Healthcare.' Show your work.

greg_ip My goodness Warren has plans for EVERYTHING, but let's look at reality, her record in the Senate: Warren has introduced 305 Bills, NONE have become Law! Which says even her fellow legislators don't believe in her 'plans'.

greg_ip Oh no! Healthy people!

greg_ip BS.

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greg_ip That's called over servicing and countries like Australia can help you deal with that. Not a real excuse for not providing universal health care.

greg_ip This is not borne out by actual facts. People in countries with universal health care receive the medical attention they require as and when they need it. They don't suffer needlessly because insurance companies deny care to ensure the health of their profit margins.

greg_ip Love to go get a catheter for fun. Get all the way out of here with this garbage.

greg_ip This is not true at all, most people hate going to the doctor. Even if it’s free, I’m avoiding it until I’m forced to go anyway.

greg_ip Overuse LOL

greg_ip Delete this

greg_ip Once, 17 years ago, the only time my family ever met it's insurance deductible, I took my kid to urgent care when I wasn't sure if he was sick or just having particularly bad hay fever. That's the closest we've ever come to 'overusing healthcare'.

greg_ip My niece has stage 4 pancreatic cancer and is still working while undergoing chemo to keep health insurance. GFY

greg_ip People would go to the doctor?

greg_ip Counterpoint: Current plan risks unintended consequences such as underuse of health care, such as suffering and death

greg_ip You are the new champ of the Most Ridiculous Thing.

greg_ip You guys are absolute vampires

greg_ip When will we recognize that opinion piecemeal like this are essentially paid special interest incumbent anti candidate advertising.

greg_ip I barely use it and it costs me a fortune.

greg_ip Oh, now it’s too much healthcare? Those soaking the system will be subjected to exposure and prosecution by both internal and external false claims whistleblowers.

greg_ip Can't let people get too healthy now

greg_ip As a Canadian I can confirm he’s right about the overuse; nothing like MRI Mondays to get my week off on the right foot. So cozy in there! Might just shoot up a few extra vaccines this weekend while I’m at it.

greg_ip Ridiculous and asinine take

greg_ip WTF is ' overuse of healthcare'?..who came up with this 💩?..

greg_ip OMG people will actually go to the doctor, we will have to wait for an appointment if too many people are able to go too!!! Waaaa waaaa really 🤮🤮🤮

greg_ip Or as patients call it, use.

greg_ip I honestly can't wait until people stop making memes of killing the rich and actually start doing it.

greg_ip I cannot fathom overusing healthcare. I hate going to the doctor or having to take medications, yet I long to be able to do so when I should instead of having to figure out it I can afford it this month. This article can go die an agonizing, painful death like the rest of us.

greg_ip hahahahahahahahahaha! FFS.. You people are hilarious.

greg_ip Wow. What bullshit.

greg_ip What the hell?!?

greg_ip What the fuck is over use of health care?

greg_ip Over use ? Like the deplorables and their pain pills

greg_ip WHAT?

greg_ip Free healthcare? Can't wait to move into a paper gown and NEVER LEAVE. Get the fuck out.

greg_ip It’s dead on arrival.

greg_ip What in the shit is 'overuse of healthcare'?

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Really? That’s the argument? 🙄

greg_ip Ha hahahahahahaha. Yeah, I totally go to my doctors unnecessarily just for extra health care 🙄

greg_ip I’d rather not go to a doctor that is more worried about his/her new Tesla than my care. The argument you are making is flawed and based in greed.

greg_ip I can't wait to get the flu!!!

greg_ip If your newspaper completely folded, society would be better off

greg_ip Because of all the countries who currently have universal healthcare, “I have to go to the doctor too much” is at the top of complaint list./s. MedicareForAll UniversalHealthcare VoteBlue2020

greg_ip What a complete load of horseshit. Hahahahahah 🤣

greg_ip By “overuse”, do you mean preventive medical care? Wouldn’t that actually be cheaper than waiting for severe health issues? Or do you intend to just euthanize people instead?

greg_ip If the is against something it must be good for the people...

greg_ip I know it sounds hilarious but the point they’re trying to make is that people in countries with universal healthcare tend to go to the ER for stupid things like sore elbows and indigestion, leading to crowded ERs and longer wait times.

greg_ip Germany dealt with this, they instituted the equivalent of a 10 dollar copay charge on all visits and cut down their expenditures a lot

greg_ip hmmmm....does Greg not know how universal medicare works? Doctors aren’t allowed to allow patients to overuse health care. It works precisely because the system can’t be abused. That’s the whole point.

greg_ip Yes I would definitely over use it fixing my 1.5 yr ankle injury and 27 yr long poop attack

greg_ip me: one surgery please surgeon: because of socialism, i must comply

greg_ip Too much getting healthy. MedicareForAll

greg_ip More chemotherapy please! I was going to stop when the doctor said enough but it is such a miserable experience why not do two more rounds?

greg_ip Who goes to the doctor for fun

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greg_ip The 'Live Sick and Die Young for Non-Rich' just doesn't have same ring to it, tbh.

greg_ip Oh no, we'll be a nation of healthy citizens, the absolute horror

greg_ip Because it’s SO MUCH FUN to go to the doctor when you don’t have to. 🙄 But mostly I’m just here for 2 things: The ratio and to say okayboomer

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare'. Hmmm. That's a new one.

greg_ip god forbid the poors get 'too healthy'

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Did you seriously write this with a straight face? Jesus.

greg_ip OVERUSE of HEALTH CARE?

greg_ip The fuck is overuse of health care?

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' is not a thing. Anywhere.

greg_ip 1789 : 'PEASANTS RISK CAKE OD WITH GUILLOTINE GAMBIT' Plainly no overuse of lucidogens here. Yeah, keep right on fanboying for the big shiny Death Machine. Looks VERY on-brand! DictatorshipOfTheKamikazetariat 30piecesofsilver_sameasintown

greg_ip Greg are you lonely ? Who the fuck hangs out a hospitals or clinics if they don't absolutely have to ?

greg_ip yeah i’m gonna go have a few extra surgeries just for fun. maybe even a heart transplant because it’s free 🤪

greg_ip The whole point of this piece is to whip up support for Warren.

greg_ip If folks won’t have to work as much they’ll choose to spend their free time in physician waiting rooms... wanna try again?

greg_ip Greg IP has super hot takes WoW

greg_ip But if the filthy poors go to doctors, how can I stay healthy? A real fucking tragedy in the making.

greg_ip lmao.

greg_ip OvErUsE oF hEaLtHcArE

greg_ip Idiot

greg_ip Ummmmm. This is pretty stupid.

greg_ip “Overuse of health care?” You mean like going to the doctor for preventative medicine? Which significantly increase lifespan and quality of life? How dare us.

greg_ip Is this for real?

greg_ip Most Americans don’t LOVE private insurance. False narrative.

greg_ip People could be wearing two band-aids when they only need one! Preventative care could mean expensive emergency care goes unused! People will get organ transplants for fun! Imagine a run on tongue depressors, people!

greg_ip How stupid are you, writing this? 🙄

greg_ip You've got a point. There’s nothing I’d rather do than go to my doctors every day.

greg_ip Can’t let the plebes be *too* healthy amirite

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greg_ip Yeah, people dying in droves is a main talking point for the Rethuglican party. After all, how are they going to open up jobs once they crash the economy again?

greg_ip I’ve been to the ER, three times in the last 3 years and I’ve told the nurses, sorry, and they said, every time, we’ll see you and look after you. I also went to the Doctor last year and she had no issues writing a clean note for me, blood test included. Total bill: ZERO 🇨🇦

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? That would be a refreshing change. Like drinking too much water. You’re on crack

greg_ip As my pediatrician tells me, there is no such thing as overuse of healthcare. If you think something is wrong, go to the doctor. Even if it turns out to be minor, it’s better safe than sorry. God forbid we give that ability to everyone.

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greg_ip What Healthcare exec or investor fed that BS to you

greg_ip Do you people live in the same world as the rest of us?!?! This is the dumbest take on healthcare for all!!

greg_ip “I love going to the doctor” said no one, ever. Ridiculous take.

greg_ip Eat my d!ck

greg_ip Overuse...? Okay, now you're just making up reasons to defend scrapping things that should be basic rights

greg_ip Get the F outta here with that noise!

greg_ip How have we been keeping people who need healthcare from using modern medicine so far Oh, yeah...

greg_ip This is ridiculous. For one thing, we’re all paying via our taxes. For another doctors’ time is just as limited as w/insurance. They give u short shrift if you’re not really sick. Nationalized healthcare saved my life. My Dad went deaf cause his gen could not afford doctor visits

greg_ip Oooh I think I’ll start having my birthday parties in the ER

greg_ip What the actual fuck? OVERUSE HEALTHCARE. That’s your hot take? Just, shut up. Seriously. Stop writing.

greg_ip Come on man

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greg_ip When did WSJ become a joke paper?

greg_ip And? People getting better, what is wrong with that?

greg_ip Really? That's all you got? Pathetic. Health insurance causes hypochondria You guys are the ones who are sick! C'mon, this is ridiculous!!! 🤣😂😜

greg_ip Consequences as in people get healthy? Oh shit the horror! We can't have people be healthy now can we?

greg_ip Lying Liz does NOT represent our best interests where healthcare is concerned. Bernie’s plan is what we justly demand, and thus a more apt target for your (completely ridiculous) fearmongering. I see how, even in opposition, your true goal is to cut him out of the conversation.

greg_ip how about people going to the doctor at the first sign that something is wrong and possibly preventing more costly measures down the road? or public promotion of healthy lifestyles to reduce issues that need expensive treatment? The horror!! Like come on, wtf

greg_ip Wait, this is serious. It’s not the Onion. Only a rag owned by Rupert Murdoch could print this headline proudly and unabashedly.

greg_ip God yes, we can't have sick people going to the doctor too much. Pray tell, the peasants might distract the doctors making six+ figure incomes from serving the 1%.

greg_ip Sure sure WSJ is worried the healthcare we deserve is just ambitious for them corporate palates. I’m sick of this.

greg_ip It sure is fun to see a headline like this when you've gotten home from seeing your dad in the ICU. This is some straight-up Ebenezer Scrooge bullshit.

greg_ip No they don't want us the know about the magical manna that keeps the wealthy alive longer while hoarding billions to give to their lucky by birth offspring. Tax free of couse. MEANWHILE we struggle to survive.

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' = 'No more insurance companies condemning you to death when you get expensive'

greg_ip Youre getting ratio'ed into Oblivion...

greg_ip Somehow I think we’ll muddle thru, while giving millions desperately needed coverage

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greg_ip The right wing nightmare future: billionaires paying taxes, people having healthcare, energy clean and plentiful.

greg_ip Hey Wall Street Journal, and hack writer — other countries with universal healthcare do not see overuse of care. So why would we see it here in America? Pull something else out of your ass, hopefully something that doesn’t stink so so much.

greg_ip Canadian, with access to universal health care: Started with a new Doctor 7 years ago, whom I love. She recommended tests, scans, lifestyle adjustments, incremental changes. I did these things, at no cost. Due to her quality of care, I hardly get to see her anymore...

greg_ip Hmm. Just went to the doc last week for my annual checkup but I've got nothing to do today so I think I'm going to go back to see if anything changed.

greg_ip help i‘m addicted to getting recreational x-rays, it’s so fun

greg_ip This level of stupid cannot actually be quantified.

greg_ip OVER USE OF HEALTHCARE?!?!?! What the actual FUCK.

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greg_ip WSJ not even bothering to mask their bias anymore. Really?!

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare. Overuse. Of. Healthcare. OVERUSE OF HEALTHCARE. 🤬 I also don’t want to hear another fucking claim about rationing of healthcare in Canada or other universal care countries. 👇👇👇

greg_ip Me showing up to my doctor with free healthcare: Yes I’ll have one surgery and new knee please.

greg_ip I grew up in 🇨🇦 I didn’t die or go bankrupt due to unexpected illness. ✅ Reality 🚨: without majority of Congress on board, we’re discussing ad nauseam a bill that doesn’t have enough support even if we killed filibuster. Let’s talk about what CAN get passed instead.

greg_ip What does that even MEAN?

greg_ip I fucking love getting unnecessary surgeries every weekend for shits and giggles. In fact, all millennials love this, and that is why they deserve to remain poor and without health care.

greg_ip My girlfriend said, 'Just buy me something crazy and expensive, something I don't even need!' So, I signed her up for radiation treatment. EmoPhilips

greg_ip Dating's tough and biopsies make awesome anecdotes.

greg_ip greg_ip, does that mean everyone gets better?

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greg_ip Overuse? Really? Is that what Big Insurance companies and Bigpharma say? Tell that to the family of a young diabetic that dies, because he couldn't afford his insulin. We can't call ourselves, the greatest country in the world.

greg_ip Overuse of health care Like, people will get addicted to going to the doctor?

greg_ip God forbid some people in our country actually get fucking healthy. We lag behind soooo many other countries in life expectancy.

greg_ip Yes, as a dude, and speaking for dudes, we all want multiple papsmears

greg_ip Seriously? This is a joke story, right.

greg_ip Did someone get paid money to write this, or is this a joke from an unpaid intern? If so, we’ll done, intern.

greg_ip When I was 11 I broke my leg. My mom told me to give it a day to make sure I really needed to go to the doctor because we couldn't afford it. If we had M4A I could have gone to the doctor instead of having to sleep on the couch that night because I couldn't walk to my bed.

greg_ip people going to the doctor when they need to isn’t overuse

greg_ip Could you imagine using your health insurance because you can actually afford it? What a world.

greg_ip WTF is “overuse of health care,” other than some elitist thought?

greg_ip As opposed to now, where countless people choose to die because of the outrageous costs of US healthcare?

greg_ip It also risks people having fair and equitable access to medical services regardless of their circumstances.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare I was supposed to have a bone marrow biopsy tomorrow and now they want 700 bucks up front. So I can’t get it done. So, if this was an affordable procedure and I had it performed, would this be abuse of healthcare?

greg_ip I think some people are afraid to have anything too good.

greg_ip We get it - you don't want the poors to be healthy. Just say that.

greg_ip Counterpoint: Eat shit.

greg_ip If the other 29 nations in the top 30 OECD nations can do it, so can the USA. You're not arguing that the U.S. is less competent than Finland, Denmark, Italy, Mexico, Spain, Turkey, Slovenia, Belgium and Estonia, are you? Why should we pay double what they pay, for worse results?

greg_ip You mean, people actually having affordable access to healthcare to become healthier? The audacity! 🙄

greg_ip Sometimes I make them take my blood pressure twice just to be doubly sure I get enough health.

greg_ip What complete horseshit!

greg_ip Get the fuck out of here with that opinion.

greg_ip Just stop, the rest of the world has figured it out, why cant we?

greg_ip Because people have nothing better to do with their time than sit around doctors offices for no good reason. What a puerile argument.

greg_ip I mean I had my appendix taken out twice because hey, it was free!

greg_ip Sometimes I go get x-rays and ct scans, just because its free.🙄

greg_ip We can't have people being too healthy, surely not!

greg_ip As opposed to the Trump health care plan where people get no use health care.

greg_ip Lol 'conservative journalism'

greg_ip Yeah, don’t go to the doctor unless you’re sick. Nobody wants to pay for your preventive care. 🙄

greg_ip Cheap scare tactics WSJ — For a country on the verge of mental-health, opioid, & obesity epidemic, “overuse of health care” is perhaps the correct remedy. America, apparently 1 in healthcare research & its own citizens are discouraged from using it? Stopping my subscription.

greg_ip Overuse -- spoken like a true GOP-loving newspaper that believes healthcare is an entitlement for the rich and a charity for the poor. FU.

greg_ip There are many models of universal healthcare around the globe. What do conservatives do? Sit around in the dark and make up up doomsday prophesy about a dystopian future of people not getting obscenely rich off the misery of others.

greg_ip yes, when I have nothing better to do, I usually pop on down to the local urgent care for some extra healthcare that I don't need.

greg_ip B..... and I can’t stress that enough.... FUCKING ..... S

greg_ip 'Oh, no! People are TOO healthy!'

greg_ip Are you shitting me? People would get healthcare regularly and that's bad?

greg_ip Yeah, everyone just loooves going to the doctor...

greg_ip That’s just a red herring scare meant to protect the status quo. What’s wrong with making insurance companies compete in a system where providing a quality service at an affordable cost is as important as protecting shareholders? HealthcareForAll

greg_ip If one loves going to the doctor, they have Munchausen's and should be seen by a psychiatrist.

greg_ip Maybe overuse isn't the right term, but there are some things to consider. Who decides which of the newest/experimental cancer drugs are covered? Retin-A for wrinkles? How much Viagra is reasonable? BTW, BCBS covers my cancer meds and my Retin-A, have no idea about Viagra.

greg_ip OMG! Then it’s impossible! Let’s just forget it!! Wait, wonder how all those European nations and Canada figured it out...

greg_ip This greg_ip guy doesn't understand preventative care, does he?

greg_ip Who reads ? Investment Bankers. Who doesn't like ewarren ?

greg_ip I work in Philly and my clients all have free healthcare and they literally go to the ER for every little thing bc its free to them but drives costs up for us taxpayers so I'm with this one

greg_ip imagine people being very healthy. this is treason

greg_ip I didn’t know one could overuse healthcare.

greg_ip It will also pay for therapy for hypochondria

greg_ip Who the hell wants to go to the Dr or be in the hospital like seriously

greg_ip Overuse of health care? What the actual fvck is wrong with you?

greg_ip As a health care professional I can say there is no such thing as overuse of healthcare. When people know they have access they will do what they need to to stay healthy saving tons of money because they don’t wait until they have to be hospitalized for serious health issues.

greg_ip Did someone really write this? Like pitched a story and they were told... yes, finally the story of keeping people healthy will get told!!! Are you sure it’s not because she is a woman with a logical plan scaring the man folk.

greg_ip I had five surgeries today and expect that I’ll go back tomorrow for at least four more. Nothing wrong, we insured people just sometimes get that urge, you know?

greg_ip Greg should work for Breitbart.

greg_ip Right, cuz I WANT to go to the doctor. I DON'T WANT to regularly just hope the problem will solve itself while I carry on doing the same stuff that led to my issue/problem in the first place

greg_ip Keep trying to get hospital-acquired MRSA but I just can't afford to anymore

greg_ip “Overuse of health care” is a bullshit term used by people who think health care needs to be rationed.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare may result in addiction to being healthy beware

greg_ip Today in fresh he’ll from the oligarchs.

greg_ip Oh really, not happening in countrys with universal health care. SCARE MONGERING!

greg_ip Is this for real?

greg_ip Oh no not too much healthcare

greg_ip Oh yeah for sure

greg_ip My word, this is certainly a stupid take.

greg_ip Everything in moderation - even illness or injury.

greg_ip As a Canadian, I use like three maybe four healthcares a week!

greg_ip LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!

greg_ip Can’t be letting those poors have too much healthcare

greg_ip Welp! You’re onto me, Greggie. Now I need to re-think my entire method for getting free traction socks. greedy people suuuuuck.

greg_ip OVERUSE OF HEALTHCARE?!! That’s not a thing. That’s never gonna be a real thing. Honestly wtf is wrong with people who actually think that’s a legitimate concern?! Frankly, if everyone gets healthcare it’s going to take AWHILE just to catch up on all the care people need.

greg_ip Might wanna do a ‘google’ about healthcare costs and inefficiency in the US vs places with universal healthcare my dude..

greg_ip If the possibility of working class Americans 'overusing' healthcare worries you more than those same Americans dying because they can't afford healthcare, you might just be a Republican.

greg_ip Yes, and that happens in Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, the Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. Stupid article.

greg_ip WE CANT AFFORD THE DAMN BILLS WHEN We have to pay A FUCKING $3k and up deductibles EVERY YEAR! NEVER IN MY LIFE EVER heard of OVERUSING health care when we DO NOT HAVE FAIR AND EQUAL ACCESS TO CARE!! My grandparents can’t afford their Medicare or Meds AND THEY ALREADY PAID FOR IT

greg_ip Overuse: going to a doctor when you actually need it without fearing having to declare bankruptcy!

greg_ip as someone with multiple chronic illnesses, and with all due respect... spack off.

greg_ip Oh my FUCKING GOD. Are you ACTUALLY trying to equate people *going to the doctor more* with people DYING FROM LACK OF HEALTHCARE?

greg_ip Beware unintended consequences of Freedom of the Press. Exhibit A: this article

greg_ip What?!

greg_ip To come to such a ridiculous conclusion you must have started with insufficient data. Such as other countries with free healthcare who don’t suffer this non problem.

greg_ip Because people dying in the street so your publisher can have another yacht is so much better? It’s funny how the people who scream loudest about “values” consistently don’t have any. Republicans would support a child molester for a tax cut. And have.

greg_ip Wow. Y’all are really grasping at straws, aren’t you? 🙄

greg_ip I would rather see that than over use of medical GoFundMe pleas!

greg_ip under my new healthcare plan greg ip can eat my ass until the sun explodes

greg_ip I'm just here for the ratio.

greg_ip So you’re arguing for health it’s “better to be sorry than safe” as opposed to “safe than sorry”.

greg_ip No it doesn't. Leave the US for a hot minute and check out how the rest of the world lives

greg_ip Damn the thought of us being TOO healthy! 🙄

greg_ip Oh boy that slippery slope of over use of healthcare.! How dare just regular average Americans get to go to the doctor🤔. Such stupidity!

greg_ip A hack hit job by a rich person's rag.

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' is a trope invented by right wing 'economists'. It's total. Every single piece of H/C data say we are underserved re H/C. Horseshit!

greg_ip You go when you feel sick and don’t when you feel fine. That’s normal. Or it should be.

greg_ip I think with high deductible plans, foregoing healthcare due to expenses is a feature, not a bug.

greg_ip What. a. GARBAGE take! OVERUSE OF HEALTHCARE? GFY YOU FASCIST. I mean... I cannot with that.

greg_ip GOP: They want to take away your choice! You’ll have long wait times and can’t choose your doctors! Also GOP: We NEED private insurance bc we can’t let people decide when they need care or whom to see or they’d use their healthcare. No no; gotta pay extra to arbitrate all this.

greg_ip Gtfoh

greg_ip Beautiful ratio.

greg_ip Only 80 year olds with terminal cancer are allowed to overuse our healthcare system! /S

greg_ip Canadian medicare for all has been going since the 60's. It is hugely popular and hasn't collapsed. Your response?

greg_ip Oh Greg. No.

greg_ip God forbid you actually go to the hospital for treatment for an allergic reaction rather than down a bottle of Benadryl, use your EpiPen, then drive and stay parked in the lot of the ER all night and “wait and see” if you can survive the night without spending the ER co-pay.

greg_ip Uuhhhhh, REALY?

greg_ip *stares in chronic illness*

greg_ip it's just a small lump after all, why bother a doctor

greg_ip How out of touch can you be?! Most people I know dread the cost of a $40 copay for a regular office visit & live in terror that a doctor recommended test that finds nothing yet nets a $40,000 bill. This is guillotine worthy stuff, honestly.

greg_ip It's true. Fucking freeloaders getting high on chemo...

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greg_ip Yeah, sure. Eff u

greg_ip Oh no! How will sick Americans recover from too many trips to the doctor at no cost?!?

greg_ip People might too healthy!

greg_ip Over use of healthcare. ...

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greg_ip This is the dumbest take anyone has ever published in the WSJ lol yikes

greg_ip Whereas our current system causes an underuse of health care. People die because their other option is bankruptcy.

greg_ip 'What do you mean the Poors will not be in constant precarity over their health? Stop this M4A nonsense now!' 'Now you've done it,' lamented the Billionaire's assistant, 'he'll have to go stomp puppies until his tantrum subsides.'

greg_ip Considering there is already an urgent care popping up every week I can’t see how healthcare would be overused compared to now.

greg_ip God forbid people actually seek care when they can afford it

greg_ip WSJ is worried that people will start doing 'health' 'we could see an epidemic of fit people - this is just a gateway to daily walking dependency'

greg_ip What? People being too healthy? How dare they!

greg_ip Oh FFS. People need the healthcare they need. What we need to evaluate are the options for paying for it. MFA isn’t going to create illness where none existed.

greg_ip OMG what if the 40,000 Americans that die from not having health insurance every year, don't die and use the health insurance again!!!!

greg_ip Christ.

greg_ip Pretty sure being able to use healthcare is the intended consequence.

greg_ip 'We demand more prostate exams!'

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare” - what - like I’d go in and get chemotherapy just for kicks? WTF?

greg_ip 'I'm not contrarian. I would just rather have ppl suffer than get treatment for their illnesses.'

greg_ip Get Bent.

greg_ip Eat the Rich

greg_ip People and their frivolous cancers and appendectomies

greg_ip Yea, NO! Try again.

greg_ip Financial assets are stolen wages

greg_ip Preventative medicine, although more frequent, is exponentially cheaper than the treatment of treating something late. And to appeal to capitalists—dead workers aren’t productive and don’t buy your products.

greg_ip Cease publication

greg_ip Going to the doctor because I’m bored, posting about it on r/recreationalsurgery

greg_ip There is no such thing as “overuse”. Seeking care early for minor issues prevents more serious and costly ones later. What is wrong with you people?

greg_ip Yes, how dare the peasants use healthcare to their requirement, without genuflecting to the one-percent that the editorial board worships. Some 'opinion', this.

greg_ip Overuse of health care Or finally being able to use health care because, despite paying for it the whole year we still get not covered enough? 😈 Medicare4All

greg_ip Sorry, but it won't do this; what it will do is allow people better coverage for ongoing problems, fewer visits to the expensive ER, primary care, and benefits like that. I think the Wall Street Journal is wrong. People who have a good relationship with a PCP do better!

greg_ip There will be a spike in usage as access to care increases, it will then level off as illness is treated and managed. It’s a trend that’s repeated itself in deployment of Romneycare in mapoli and states that opted into Medicare expansion as part of ACA.

greg_ip You guys at the Wall St Journal need to get out more. There are some people who will always 'overuse' most anything, but healthcare is rarely one of them. People in countries with 'socialized medicine' are much happier and less stressed than in U.S.

greg_ip I'd like to place my order for an elective appendectomy, with a side of mole removal, pap smear and maybe one of those hip replacements. Oh and a diet coke.

greg_ip I guess that's what happens when universal health care has been the forbidden fruit in the US for so long. People with nothing better to do will be itching to go to medical offices and hospitals just for the hell of it.

greg_ip Sooooo..... people seeking medical care when they're sick or think they're sick is a *bad* thing now, huh? Not duplication of services. Not an outdated & chaotic billing systems for individual commercial plans. Not denial of services. Not profiteering off illness. Overuse, huh?

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greg_ip 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalieanable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness ...' WSJ: concerned about overuse of Life, Liberty & Happiness

greg_ip Stupid poors and their diseases.

greg_ip Yeah, we’d all go to the dr every day because it sounds like fun. Ok. 🙄

greg_ip 🇨🇦 here. Such a terrible thing to have access to healthcare if I think I need it. Sips martini.

greg_ip Well $12,000 annually with crappy doctors and $7,000 annual deductible - just take me now Lord.

greg_ip This is the most mind-numbingly dumb article I’ve read in a while. You’re afraid people are going to be too healthy? Overuse of healthcare isn’t a thing.

greg_ip Fuck! I hate when people use health care! That's not why I supported Medicare for All at all! Everyone was just supposed to use it that one time!

greg_ip Are...are you high?

greg_ip Well these are some words.

greg_ip Oh shit are they going to use up all the care?

greg_ip ewarren They are grasping at straws.

greg_ip Overuse of health care? Is that what the GOP thinks of people...getting adequate care?

greg_ip That is not a thing. What an asinine article and theory.

greg_ip Overuse as in “now you can visit a doctor without going bankrupt”.

Ok, now that's just too healthy. It's getting weird.

greg_ip Billionaires might not be able to transfuse the blood of young virgins if the poors get access to healthcare!

greg_ip Are you fucking for real right now?

greg_ip Don’t let poor people have anything! Jesus you all are the anti Christ.

greg_ip Heaven forbid if people have healthcare and actually use it.

greg_ip Why is their a copay? “Well you know people. Just abuse the system.” Why am I paying more for my scripts? “People overusing drugs.” Why is their a lifetime cap on my medical?” “People just hang on and on and..” Is there a reason my deductibles tripled? “We can’t have waste.”

greg_ip God forbid people stay in good health.

greg_ip Who writes this shit?

greg_ip Better people die in the streets without healthcare than some people go for too many checkups. Who knew the WSJ would come out in favor of rationing healthcare.

greg_ip You can look at any other country and see what people do with universal healthcare. This article and all the articles like it are boring, lazy and in bad faith.

greg_ip What -- only a someone with great healthcare would make such a stupid comment -- Does this person even know the cost of a trip to the emergency room for a child with asthma, or a visit to a doctor for a check up & heaven forbid you need a follow up or prescriptions. Geez -

greg_ip I like to save mine until I’m incurable. Look at what I saved you.

greg_ip Huh? Like people would use healthcare preventively maybe towards better overall health

greg_ip can't wait to binge on the sheer, unadulterated pleasure of... *checks notes* being inspected by a doctor

greg_ip Wtf. Guys, regular checks with a GP catches problems early and reduces cost in the long run. Don't be so dang silly.

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greg_ip God help us, we are all going to die of health care overdoses.

greg_ip “If people have insurance, they might go to the doctor when they don’t need to!” is a pretty shitty response to people dying and going bankrupt becuase they don’t have insurance.

greg_ip Blah, blah, blah. . . Yes, nothing works, nothing is perfect, so let’s knock every idea and do nothing.

greg_ip Premise is garbage--fear and defeatism; assumes America can't do it as well or better than other countries. We can; yes we can find a way forward to a better future.

greg_ip This won’t happen under Bernie’s plan nor will it happen under Warren’s plan.

greg_ip This article reeks of rupertmurdoch and it stinks!!

greg_ip This is the biggest nonsense line of the week, and clearly written by someone that has never lived in a country with nationalized healthcare

greg_ip Very good ratio would read again

greg_ip Heaven forbid people actually take care of themselves

greg_ip Someone who has a good health plan and the salary to pay his copays thinks the poor shouldn't go to the doctor 'too often'. 🙄🙄🙄

greg_ip Wow, her detractors really do unintentionally write the best pieces in support of her.

greg_ip What kind of bullshit is this?

greg_ip good thing greg_ip's impossibly smooth brain isn't at risk of overuse

greg_ip As if we all want MORE blood tests, MRIs, CT scans, chemo, drugs, etc...are u f'ing crazy?!

greg_ip “risks overuse of healthcare” is the most entitled headline i’ve ever seen. “oh noes, the poors might live longer if they catch their black lung early enough”

greg_ip Versus underuse by those who are limited to 3 covered visits annually? (And often do not seek medical care when needed)

greg_ip Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

greg_ip Lmao

greg_ip Man, I keep having to pull this one out lately.

greg_ip Overuse? Seriously? Heaven forbid we actively want to take care of ourselves. I’d love to know what this idiot considers “overuse”

greg_ip Healthcare has its own built in rationing mechanism, chiefly that people would rather be healthy and would rather not be on a hospital or doctor’s office. With the exception of cosmetic surgery, no one wants anymore healthcare then the need to be well again.

greg_ip Good lord, poor people might *prevent diseases and accidents instead of having them! I can't look!

greg_ip ' My country has good nationalized health care and doctors offices are always filled with hypochondriacs just sitting there trying to see a doctor!!' said no one ever

greg_ip Oh please. ..

greg_ip Bullshit! It will mean people won’t have to go broke just cuz they’re sick. And it’ll make everyone more healthy and productive which is good for you capitalists.

greg_ip I'll live with the unintended consequences. Without Medicare for all, I'll have to die because of the intended consequences.

greg_ip How The WSJ's soulless greg_ip thinks universal healthcare will work:

greg_ip yes like a hospital is a notoriously pleasant experience

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greg_ip The avid DIY’er can always perform their colonoscopies at home with a GoPro and a fishing rod

greg_ip What a ridiculous thing to worry about, overuse of health care. Oh no, people will be healthy and happy, we can’t have that!

greg_ip This.... and I can't stress this enough... is the dumbest fucking thing I've read in a solid decade.

greg_ip It’s only “overuse” if the poors are getting care .

greg_ip We are THIS CLOSE to overuse of oxygen.

greg_ip As opposed to the intended consequences of the massively corrupt private system that gouges employers and employees for insurance executives’ obscene bonuses and leaves people bankrupt if they get sick and has absolutely average outcomes? Overuse please!

greg_ip What’s next? SNAP leads to over use of food?

greg_ip Me and all my hypochondriac friends can't wait! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

greg_ip Oh shut the f up! Many countries in the world have Universal health care! Overuse is mostly not an issue! It is 2019 now and a country like yours doesn't have proper health care... it is time...seriously!

greg_ip Totally, if she’s elected I plan to get a second bilateral mastectomy.

greg_ip Who overuses health care. I got better things to do. 🤦‍♀️

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare is related more to the way doctors get paid than to patients who you suggest want more tests, prescriptions, etc. Who wants an extra colonoscopy? Most people want to see very little of their doc even if they like her.

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greg_ip Oh dear what a horrible thing

greg_ip Which is not an issue in other countries with a national health care system, but is a useful, faux concern to put out there, WSJ.

greg_ip OH NO PEOPLE WILL BE TOO HEALTHY

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greg_ip This is a ridiculous article. Do better

greg_ip Or perhaps, just perhaps, since more people are able to get treatment for their conditions, those conditions don't spiral out of control and wind up costing far more in the long run.

greg_ip Overuse is better than underuse. Suck it up.........We need healthcare for all.

greg_ip Nothing says 'I think people who aren't rich are just stupid' quite like claiming we would use healthcare when we don't need it. This sounds like something a self-absorbed, classicist, corporate clown in a movie would say to protect their own privileges and the status quo.

greg_ip Right I forgot people love going to the doctor for fun

greg_ip Clutch them pearl. Don't let em go. Keep clutching.

greg_ip what the fuck even is overuse of healthcare oh no debbie went to the doctor twice this month

greg_ip I can’t imagine being a journalist and typing something so incredibly stupid

greg_ip It also ends Medicaid and will leave many elderly and disabled low income people to die.

greg_ip I am gonna get SO. MANY. PAP SMEARS. Seriously, this is such a bootlicker take. Ok boomer. 🤪👌

greg_ip Thanks for mansplaining useless old white men of the WSJ

greg_ip Self parody

greg_ip I can't wait to insulin the shit out of myself.

greg_ip Stfu lol

Taragolf1 greg_ip Oh FFS mrons on the loose cat WSJ

greg_ip How do you 'overuse' health care? If I'm healthy then I wouldn't be using it more, and if I am sick then it is not 'overuse'. Also, if this pushes out some Dr. because they are not making as much $, then good riddance! I want a Dr that shows up because they care.

greg_ip Wow, people would be free to check with their doctor when some unknown pain or illness flairs up?!?! Wtf, that’s not what healthcare is for!!!!!

greg_ip There are people who ignore symptoms for months, because they can't afford to go to the doctor. We should all be able to overuse healthcare.

greg_ip Just say you hate poor people and be done with the charade.

greg_ip drop dead, you fucking ghouls

greg_ip A dumb take Greg

greg_ip Overuse of health care primarily relates to drug costs. With such a large population having access to free healthcare, medicine and drugs would be used up 10x as quickly Costing the hospitals more as well as increasing waiting times due to doctor availability...

greg_ip What the french fried fuck is overusing medical care? Is this coming from years of insurance companies doling out care and denying life saving tests and medicine?

greg_ip Y'all also OPPOSED outcome-based payments, so there's that.

greg_ip P. S. People are dying from lack of medications. So your option is ...death?

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' 😀😂🤣

greg_ip Don't you think that the current UNDERuse is a bigger problem to report on?

greg_ip 'Unintended consequences' They really mean the poor people not dying

greg_ip It really would be a shame if we were all, y'know, *too* healthy.

greg_ip ... you mean people who have been suffering multiple health conditions for years because they can't afford to be treated under your current terrible decision will sudden be able to improve their quality of life? The Horror!!

greg_ip hahaha! 'Honey, today I think Imma go to the doctor & get him to do disgusting tests on me' said no one ever.

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greg_ip what's wrong with that?

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greg_ip The fuck is wrong with you?

greg_ip 'American exceptionalism' is a nice way of saying 'I want special treats for doing my damn job'.

greg_ip One of those unintended consequences would be that your employees could quit more easily. But you know that. Can you think of any unintended consequences of our for-profit system? I can think of quite a few, although I'm not sure they're actually unintended.

greg_ip Day 37 of Medicare for All. I'm at the doctor's office again. I used all my sick days so my boss fired me. That's fine. One less distraction in my quest for permanent healthcare. I am the king of healthy

greg_ip Are you fucking serious? 🤦🏻‍♂️

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greg_ip I can't wait to get surgery every other week and spend some fun time at the hospital once this will all be given out for free. HeathCareOveruse will be amazing.

greg_ip Yes, because that's what we'll all do. Overuse health care. WTF?

greg_ip I'm not a fan of M4A but exactly *what* is the harm in over-healthy individuals Medicare has limits. And since the government writes the guidelines, more limits could be set if they wanted to. So far, they haven't wanted to.

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greg_ip The horror

greg_ip Like no other countries do?

greg_ip Translation: poor people might be able to have medical treatment AND food. The horror.

greg_ip LOL. I read this as, “Med schools are gonna have to let more people in, so we can no longer make medicine about protecting the rich.”

greg_ip yeah I['d rather it be overused (not that that's, you know, actually a thing) than have people dying because they can't afford a single pill a day, thanks. WTF is wrong with you all.

Shut up, thx

greg_ip you can't overuse health care.. that fucking ridiculous.

greg_ip what stage of capitalism is this

greg_ip I think I’ll just ask for a few more chemo treatments for the heck of it. The first four were $12,000 each. What’s a few more toxic to the body treatments, when chemo side effects are so much fun!

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' cannot possibly be a thing

greg_ip I work on 100% free clinic. I've never once encountered an 'overuse' of our service. What would that even look like?

greg_ip Or, you know, regular of use of healthcare when people actually need it.

greg_ip yeah ya just hate to see people being...too healthy

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare is that when everyone gets healthcare?

greg_ip greg_ip is clearly an idiot. No research supports that concept, in fact all research supports the benefits of a health care system! I’m Canadian and I can tell you it never crosses my mind to use the system unless I HAVE TO. cluelessmen

greg_ip Read the room. Your argument is horrible.

greg_ip Congratulations. You've published the perfect pairing of crass and stupid.

*THIS IS NOT MINE BUT IT IS GOOD* me: give to me all the surgeries and healthcares doctor: but you are perfectly fine me: ALL THE SURGERIES AND HEALTHCARES NAOW doctor: sadly because of socialism i must comply

greg_ip So people will develop a love of medical treatment once it’s free? Umm people hate going to the doctor even when it’s absolutely necessary and cost isn’t a factor. Don’t think that’s going to change anytime soon

greg_ip Overuse? That’s supposed to be a real argument? In a country as rich as ours where diabetics die from rationing their insulin?

greg_ip Before you write this trite, why not actually do some detailed analysis from other first world countries with universal health care? Or talk to doctors in the current system who are so afraid of getting sued, their extra testing creates its own health care 'over use' problem.

greg_ip You need at least some kind of copay to deter. In labor and delivery Medicaid moms are always coming in with no real issue to get 'free to them' ultrasounds.

greg_ip Shut up greg

greg_ip What exactly does an overuse of healthcare of healthcare look like? Is it people seeking professional medical attention any time they have an illness?

greg_ip 'What's that lump on your shoulder?' Go see a doctor and find out. And then the doc they sends you off for some test... It shouldn't be a decision based on money.

greg_ip You are the WSJ. You are a right wing rag. Of course this is your analysis. Your billionaire bosses will accept nothing less.

greg_ip As opposed to dying in the streets? Yeah, that’s some kind of horrible.

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greg_ip This trash rules. Yeah, go ask anyone who lives in a country with universal healthcare about how people “steal” extra healthcare. This is pathetic.

greg_ip This article provides no proof that healthcare overuse is a thing aside from trying to claim that private ins prevents it. If referring to those w hypochondria and Munchhausen, they aren't majority. Healthcare WILL see increase w M4A - from those who couldn't get care before.

greg_ip Can't have people being TOO healthy, now, can we? Healthcare benefits are one of the tools companies use to keep employees scared about quitting or getting fired. Of course Wall Street is against MFA.

greg_ip 'Come on everybody, we're going to the hospital for a free chemo!'

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare?! WTF? YOU ARE DOOMED.

greg_ip As opposed to the people who literally can't afford the care they need right now? Fuck off with this.

greg_ip Imagine a populace so healthy they willingly get into car accidents for the thrill of watching their wounds close in seconds.

greg_ip And other unintended consequences like less poor people dying needlessly to the frustration of your reader base

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare” 🥴

greg_ip Gonna go for Two mammos a year if this happens because they are SUPER FUN

greg_ip Overuse? By who the dirty working the people? Piss off

greg_ip If people go to the doctor so much they'll get so healthy they won't need a doctor

greg_ip I would overuse healthcare *so hard*

greg_ip Is the worry that people will become too healthy? Or is this more of an ‘all things in moderation’ piece?

greg_ip What a stupid headline! Do you mean people might get ‘preventative care’ which has proven to keep people healthier which ultimately saves healthcare costs? See why your premise is ignorant?

greg_ip “Overuse” is the corporate raider term for “proper healthcare.”

greg_ip Really? This is what your going with?

greg_ip Hi, Australian here, 45 years old, it’s a bad year for me if I’ve been to my GP more than once.

greg_ip I'm from Norway where there's single-payer health care and I break my legs on purpose 2-3 times a year to make sure I get my fill. Sometimes I reflexively stab myself when I remember that going to the ER is free. If only our media had warned us this would happen.

greg_ip HOW IN THE HELL DOES THIS IDIOT HAVE THAT MANY FOLLOWERS? ARE THEY RUSSIAN BOTS OR WHAT?

greg_ip Thor is pleased at this ratio

greg_ip So, preventative healthcare is a bad thing?

greg_ip Is there a reason you referred to Senator Warren as “Ms.” rather than using any of her professional titles?

greg_ip Duh... Health care is only for people who are healthy, everyone knows that...

greg_ip The fact she scares you so much is why we like her.

greg_ip Oh no what if everyone becomes too healthy

greg_ip Yeah. I’ll plan to get extra sick.

greg_ip Don't worry guys, she's a capitalist. She's on your side.

greg_ip Aha! The ol' 'positive consequences are bad' argument.

greg_ip Oh yeah because people just love going to the hospital and getting surgeries they dont need, and doctors would totally just let them do that great reporting as usual wsj.

greg_ip People pay you for this garbage?

greg_ip love going to the doctor with my kids like it’s Disney World adorned in my JD and Turk Scrubs t-shirt, a stethoscope, and a big foam finger that says 1 and riding the MRI machine until I get a migraine and vomit

greg_ip Cool so people should die instead bc they can't afford to go to the doctor.

greg_ip 'Overuse' - because everyone loves going to the doctor if they aren't sick.

greg_ip Ooooooh the Ratio on this one 😂

greg_ip Rationing happens regardless. All you're saying here is the poors should die and the middle class should be bankrupted lest the elite lose their high score.

greg_ip Yeah cause we love going to the doctor so much- sarcasm! Give me a break!

greg_ip Well, time to eat the rich.

greg_ip Comes down to this! Republicans want your Federal income tax money and they do not you to have MedicareForAll! A healthy society is a better society! A sick society is a less productive society!

greg_ip please define “overuse of healthcare”

greg_ip Who does this person supposedly know that does this

greg_ip Right, because all we want to do is go the doctor when we don’t really need to.

greg_ip You mean as opposed to our current plan, which has intended consequences like children dying from easily treatable illnesses?

greg_ip Who can AFFORD TO OVERUSE it?!?

greg_ip I'm sure nobody has ever thought of this important issue before! Hold everything!

greg_ip wat

greg_ip Fun fact: health care 'overuse' greatly reduces emergency room visits and increases early detection of disease. This greatly reduces overall costs. Isn't economics kind of your newspaper's thing?

greg_ip You still have to make an appointment and take time off to go most of the time...relax.

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greg_ip Personally I prefer underused healthcare. So much more effective when it’s not being used!!

greg_ip Installing a water fountain in the desert does increase risk of overconsumption of water.

greg_ip I'm gonna get a physical every week. Just to get my balls cupped.

greg_ip God forbid people use it and get more healthy

greg_ip I remember when I lived in Canada and hoarded all the healthcare I could.

greg_ip LOL everyone is rightfully calling this out as 🚮 as do I, but also wanted to add Japan's system takes into account the occasional hypochondriac, and will instead offer them counseling services. Tho, my step-mom had half her intestines removed at the insistence of her Dr.s...

greg_ip great joke. what a funny guy

greg_ip The dumbest take.

greg_ip Hey Greg, who pays for your health insurance and can you see a doctor any time you're sick?

greg_ip Overuse of health care is a problem just like over-eating is a problem. However, we don't prevent people from having access to food just because they have an over eating problem.

greg_ip 'Hey kids, it's Saturday! What would you like to do today? We could go to the park, stay home and watch cartoons, or visit the doctor for some embarrassment and shots...'🙄

greg_ip There is ample evidence that this isn’t the case. FFS.

greg_ip How the fuck am I supposed to “overuse” my healthcare? Genuinely curious.

greg_ip Hahaha how ridiculous! My favourite thing to do in my spare time is get unnecessary medical attention here in Canada 🇨🇦...

greg_ip As a Canadian I can confidently call BS on this.

greg_ip Exactly! We prefer people suffer and die rather than overuse healthcare.

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greg_ip Do you read anything before publishing it? What, are you Jack Kerouac pounding away at a typewriter for three weeks straight on a roll of paper 120 feet long?!! There, I insulted a clueless newspaper AND you learned something.

greg_ip What idiot editor made the decision to publish this turd of a theory? Easily disproved by taking a quick look at how healthcare works almost anywhere outside of the US.

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greg_ip That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works.

greg_ip Oh ffs, this is NOT TRUE. Every other developed nation in the world has some form of universal health care, and this is simply not a problem. Typical American bullshit spouted by the people who make big money off illness.

greg_ip This is so ridiculous. Yes, there could be a rush for care initially I suppose. Still more cost effective than ED visits and waiting until a manageable problem balloons into something catastrophic.

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greg_ip just going to the hospital and demanding chemotherapy

greg_ip This is why I never vote for school bonds anymore. I don’t want those kids getting TOO smart.

greg_ip greg_ip just want you to know it’s called an LP and your full length debut isn’t something to look forward to. Also Health Care for All is a good thing. You aren’t helping anyone except corporate overlords, you fool.

greg_ip Greg... You be bad.

greg_ip Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck offfffffffffffffffffff.

greg_ip Over use of healthcare? In the UK we call that 'staying well using our taxes' but OK.

greg_ip What a shame it would be if Americans were pumping millions of dollars into pay for health care professionals instead of insurance exec's bonuses

greg_ip Yeah. We all try to get as many healthcare procedures as possible. I will personally be wearing IVs like jewelry and be asking fit a new heart every six months.

surlybassey greg_ip Like, people like me, who paid into Medicare all their lives but can't afford the monthly premiums, actually getting to see a doctor? Horrifying.

greg_ip Every other major country in the world has a similar system and do not have this problem, why would we? (I don't agree with Warren's version/financial plan, and I don't think she'll fight for it like Bernie will for his bill. But the argument is absurd no matter which plan)

greg_ip Omg how ridiculous. 🙄

greg_ip Greg Ip needs to stop writing.

greg_ip Wow. This is really jacked up. Unbelievable really.

greg_ip What complete garbage. You've officially lost the argument when you're trying for 'we don't want people to be TOO healthy.'

greg_ip Have the day off? Why not get another colonoscopy!

greg_ip JFC, what planet do you all live in?

greg_ip OMG. 🙄

greg_ip what the fvck is overuse of healthcare?

greg_ip Thats not how it works, bruv

greg_ip Typical right wing trash.

greg_ip Wait... you're saying that if people have affordable healthcare they might actually pay attention to early symptoms, go to the doctor, avail themselves of preventive screenings, get their prescriptions filled, and otherwise be proactive about their health... .. and that's bad?

greg_ip It's that problem that no country with socialized healthcare has encountered.

greg_ip Overuse? That has got to be the dumbest statement ever.

greg_ip I hate this so much.

greg_ip Wow, imagine being healthy....

greg_ip Why should the poors spend my yacht and cocaine money on staying healthy?

greg_ip “Overuse.” Meanwhile, I am in DESPERATE need of therapy but have to ask myself every time if we can really afford that $45/sesh. Eat the rich, seriously.

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greg_ip This is another hot take by the Wall Street journal. If you don't understand why this is a hot take, WSJ basically is shouting about the dangers of being too healthy and that MedicareForAll will make people too healthy, and being healthy is dangerous to society.

greg_ip I for one, cannot wait to spend more time waiting to see a doctor. I love wasting time almost as much as wasting money, so with Warren's plan, I will be disappointed that I will have to pay so much less, but the WSJ will find some jackass willing to come up with something stupid.

greg_ip I hope I can get that new hip I don’t need sounds like a fun weekend

greg_ip Jesus Christ... 🙄

greg_ip Seriously?

greg_ip The WSJ today, apparently.

greg_ip Don't worry, you're gonna get Bernie's Medicare for All plan instead. Bernie2020

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? WTF?

greg_ip Believe me when I say this: NO ONE likes going to the doctor or undergoing testing except for maybe hypochondrics such as yourselves. You're NUTS.

greg_ip Better to stick with the underuse of health care I suppose? I'm mean, sure, it MIGHT kill you, but better than forcing billionaires and highly profitable companies to actually pay taxes; THAT would be truly un-American!

greg_ip Because that’s not a problem now at all. /s

greg_ip Oh noooo, the people are too healthy... society is ruined

greg_ip First of all, preventive care is less expensive than waiting for your health to go completely south.

greg_ip You know what's even more likely and more expensive? People waiting until they're so sick they have to go the ER.

greg_ip How Is Preventive Health Care Catch It Early A Yearly Physical EVER Overuse?

greg_ip What is “overuse of healthcare”? Does that mean I’ll get to go to the Dr, instead of just living with it and hoping it goes away & I get better soon? You mean, I might get to go the dentist for the first time in 20 years? Can’t wait to “overuse healthcare”!

greg_ip Well, we certainly wouldn't want anybody seeing a medical professional frequently enough to actually get or stay healthy. That would obviously cut into profits and then what would the point of practicing medicine be in this country?

greg_ip Fuck off, greg_ip and .

greg_ip Liars.

greg_ip Is are against Warren then she deserves more support foch murdoch

greg_ip Getting a Pap smear is the same as dating, right?

greg_ip Is that what we're calling preventive healthcare now?

greg_ip Perish the thought I mean, the people perish Without vision WSJ has vision to burn

greg_ip Imagine more people being able to get preventative care. Imagine the number of people NOT waiting until their illnesses are so severe that they go to the emergency room and rack up hospital visits. Did you consider that?

greg_ip Why care about life expectancy when all you need is a disposable workforce, right? Right?

greg_ip Cool

greg_ip Prevention would actually save us money. Unfortunately, prevention doesn't enrich insurance companies like reactionary medicine, right WSJ? How dare people use the system as intended.

greg_ip Sure must be nice to be one of those lucky ducks who died rationing diabetes medicine before tax season.

greg_ip How do you overuse fucking healthcare?

greg_ip If you fearful turds actually did some research instead of operating from knee jerk prejudice, you'd see that preventative care *saves money*!

greg_ip People will use the system as intended, so it's bad! Typical fucking WSJ. Eat the rich.

greg_ip Yeah, so I am a first aid at my job in Canada and when people with existing heart conditions are having chest pains, I have to have a manager insist they go to a doctor. Just cause it's free doesn't mean people want to go, it means they know they can go when they need to.

greg_ip You have to start a plan somewhere and then you change what doesn't work, but at least she has some idea of a future for Universal Health Care for every American. Why don't Democrats work with her to try to make the best plan to put forward instead of just picking it apart

greg_ip Lol I plan to go to the dentist just for fun

greg_ip “Hmm, I could sure use an appendectomy today.”

greg_ip I had to overuse healthcare to get my chemo, I guess 🤔

greg_ip I can't believe I just read that shit. Could you possibly shill any harder, Greg?

greg_ip I understand that private US health is the only system that has a culture of unnecessary treatment leading to millions of wasted dollars and deaths every year. Not a problem elsewhere.

greg_ip Nothing like wasting time at the doctors! Love pointlessly spending my time for no reason!!

greg_ip UK resident and free at the point of access NHS user here. Nobody goes to the doctor unless they have to. Personally I’ve not been for over 5 years.

greg_ip Greg should overuse his healthcare and get his brain worms checked, imo

greg_ip I have lived in 3 countries with free healthcare and I only have gone to the Dr. When I needed it knowing that when I need it I won't have to go bankrupt to pay for it!

greg_ip Yeah. Nothing I like more than going to the doctor for no fucking reason.

greg_ip What a fucking headline. Why do people in this country act like Universal Healthcare doesn't exist in other countries? They seem to manage it just fine.

greg_ip You are either evil or protecting evil. People in this country need the kind of health care the rest of the developed world had. Health care insurance executives need our system to extract wealth.

greg_ip Because people love goingbto the doctor all the time. Wtf

greg_ip How awful if people stop rationing their medications and actually seek medical treatments instead of toughing it out because of our exorbitant healthcare costs. We're pay triple other countries administrative costs and double for prescription medication. I'm a HealthcareVoter

greg_ip or maybe we can have the consequence of people getting healthier or People being less stressed about being sick and decreasing the consequences from that.

greg_ip Incredible ratio here

greg_ip There is literally more unnecessary medical procedure in the usa than anywhere else on the planet, even when adjusted for population

greg_ip oh god, not people receiving too much healthcare

greg_ip hell yeah man the only thing stopping me from weekly flu vaccination is my private insurer

greg_ip No one wants to be sick since it feels awful.

greg_ip Overuse of health care? How would that happen when you literally have to take time off work to go to the doctor so people are not gonna just be in the hospital all day because they need money to pay the rest of the bills that are astronomically high for no reason

greg_ip Oh Noes! People may be able to actually use the healthcare system!

greg_ip Yeah, because that's what everyone dreams of doing - hanging out at the doctor's office. 🙄

greg_ip What the fuck is wrong with you?

greg_ip That a good problem to have you bozos

greg_ip Just wait till Sanders wins and puts all of these health care CEOs in their very own Gulag!

greg_ip Really

greg_ip Yeah right? I'm in Australia and I just make doctors appointments all day because I love nothing better than spending my time sitting in waiting rooms being coughed on. What a bunch of twats.

greg_ip How do you publish these things with out laughing?

greg_ip Wtf does “overuse of healthcare” even mean. Eat shit

greg_ip Can't wait when M4A passes so I can vibe with my surgeon

greg_ip Poor 1: Hey dude, what do you want to do this Saturday? Poor 2: I dunno. Maybe go hang out at the hospital. I just love filling out forms and waiting in uncomfortable rooms full of sick stangers. P1: YES Let's waste those resources! (In the not so distant future, right Greg?)

greg_ip The article is garbage, but this comment thread is gold!

greg_ip Ahh yes, like how fire departments have led to overextinguishing of fires and libraries led to overreading of books, all this makes sense now

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare... that's what the WSJ is worried about? Geez.

greg_ip I'm sorry, what?

greg_ip Yes, we all know how people just love to go to the doctor for the fun of it.

greg_ip Yeah, haven’t we learned the lesson that trump was elected because people were super mad they couldn’t go to the doctor every day?

greg_ip I do sometimes wonder if the current system could work if it was highly regulated and not corrupt but this is not the argument the WSJ is making.

greg_ip Over use Over use?

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greg_ip 'Overuse of health care'

greg_ip How many countries with universal healthcare have systematic over use of healthcare?

greg_ip Getting insulin for your diabetes to own the libs

greg_ip Exactly how can health care be overused

greg_ip Overuse of Healthcare? That might be the dumbest string of 4 words ever... How do you get too healthy... Those 4 words are GOP nonsense...

greg_ip 'Overuse of Health Care' might be my favorite FUD ever.

greg_ip Read between the lines, when they say healthcare will be over used they mean poor people will start using healthcare and you can’t have that coz healthcare is for rich people only.

greg_ip FFS, . You’re better than this bullshit—or maybe not.

greg_ip What a horrible world that would be. Imagine, hoards of healthy people shuffling through their day. What an absolute 'nightmare'...

greg_ip OVERUSE OF sorry I’m just I’m

greg_ip AsangaWeli what in the world? (disclaimer. I didn’t read the article)

greg_ip If you're that worried, promote the idea of calling the nurse line before going in. Being able to go to the doctor when you couldn't afford to before is not 'overuse,' is just 'use.' Of course, that's not profitable, which is why health insurance shouldn't be for profit.

greg_ip Good health is overrated, as it is ultimately fatal.

greg_ip You mean people actually getting the testing and treatment they need? 🤔I cant tell you how many of our patients have suffered needlessly longer than they have to because insurance decides we dont know what our own patients need.

greg_ip I’m here for the

greg_ip Yup. Going to the doctor this afternoon just for fun

greg_ip I often find myself wondering, how can I spend more time than necessary in a doctors office

greg_ip This article is awesome! Obviously it's the uppity poors and greedy doctors who are responsible for our profiteering health care system with the worst outcomes in the world. We must crack down on sick people and healthcare professionals! Make them pay!

greg_ip WSJ in 1963: “Clean Air Act risks unintended consequences such as overuse of oxygen.”

greg_ip Don't worry... her financing plan is so terrible that M4A would never pass or be fought for under Warren. Nice head fake, though.

greg_ip Yeah, when I have free time and want to get my jollies by being poked and prodded while I’m naked, I always saunter over to the doctor’s office. Good times.

greg_ip See this is why we do the 'Eat the rich' thing

greg_ip Public support for the combination of expanded government health insurance & private insurance remains high but many of us do not want to lose our private insurance. The ACA had it about right. Medicare for All will never be approved by Congress no matter who is elected POTUS 46

I know my favorite hobby is waiting in a doctor's office for an unpleasant medical procedure or discussion yall always do this like people are going to start going to the emergency room for paper cuts or something when that doesn't happen anywhere with socialized medicine

greg_ip 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

greg_ip When an industry is afraid of change because it might makes more people use its services.....there’s something way fucking wrong with that industry to begin with.

greg_ip We spend all of our time in A and E here, hooked on that sweet free healthcare.

greg_ip 'Overuse' as per this WSJ writer cites is FAR less costly than the existing practice of using emergency rooms vs more proactive, ProHealth services. He obviously has never studied healthcare systems

greg_ip Seems to me that rich people can pay for any healthcare they desire. Are they at special risk of overusing it? Whatever shall we do to save them from that fate?

greg_ip It’s heaps weird how you Americans seem to hate Americans.

greg_ip How does one “overuse” healthcare? Do they become too healthy? Are you worried that they’ll go in whenever they don’t feel well, that they’ll get too much preventative care? How. Dreadful. Ffs

greg_ip “Hello, yes Mr. Doctor sir, I would like 14 kidney transplants please.” “Well, I guess because of single payer healthcare, I must oblige with this request.” This is the future socialists want!

greg_ip 🤣😂👆 OVERUSE OF HEALTH? greg_ip

greg_ip y'all need to stop treating healthcare as a fucking product. it's not a shiny gizmo you get a deal on, or buy too much of simply bc you can afford it, or advertise or make a profit from it's a necessity and a human right, and it's about time your framework grasped that

greg_ip Kill the poor. Coming through loud and clear, Rupert.

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greg_ip Also think of the jobs we lose. Specifically the one where people walk around with a cart yelling, 'Bring out your dead!' like Eric Idle in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

greg_ip icymi... BigDisease, BigDeath & their allies are lining up against our ElizabethWarren

greg_ip Absolutely! I can't imagine anything I would enjoy more than spontaneous trips to the ER. 'The club, tonight?' 'Naw, we all meetin' up in the Oncology ward!'

greg_ip delete your account

greg_ip News flash from Canada: 'overuse' of health care doesn't happen here. Going to the doc still takes time and effort. No one's going unless they feel they need it. The difference is that everyone can afford to do it when they need it.

greg_ip Because everybody loooooves to go to the doctor.

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greg_ip Yeah, cause we def don’t have that now. 🤦‍♂️

greg_ip Overuse would show up on the bottom line of any number of countries with socialized medicine, yet they all spend far less per capita. Data doesn't care about your rhetoric

greg_ip 'what if our health care dilemma is TOO MANY people covered?' gtfo here with this garbage

greg_ip Yes, because over here we all just go to the doctor’s for fun! (Sarcasm) This is the most asinine, moronic, uninformed take one could have on this. Stop giving people who know fuck all about universal healthcare a platform to talk about universal healthcare.

greg_ip You people are the lowest of the human cesspool. It’s ok for billionaires to over use their money, to over use their tax exemptions, to participate in Epstein’s sex trafficking by over using their power and influence but please whine about the average person getting healthcare.

greg_ip WTF is wrong with you? Seriously? I'd sure like to meet your parents

greg_ip No one likes going to the doctor. If people had universal access to health care, they would be able to see their docs for preventative care that would lessen the negative impact of chronic illnesses and would have fewer costly ER visits.

greg_ip Did a disease write this? Didn't know they had learned how to read and write.

greg_ip Cool outrage clicks, dudes. Very proud of you.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare as opposed to underuse and people dying?

greg_ip Love going to the hospital. Great food, great smells, no unescapable awareness of my own mortality, just a good time all around!

greg_ip Lol

greg_ip 😂

greg_ip What are you on about? We (Holland) have medicare for all and abuse is negligible

greg_ip Ah yes, I too am concerned about too many people finally getting medical treatment after not being able to afford it

greg_ip We already overuse healthcare. We go to the E.R for the smallest thing because we avoid seeing doctors for so long that we panic due to a lack of consistent care, and get E.R prices for being told to just rest. The overuse will never go away: it's how do we make that affordable?

greg_ip yeah, right.

greg_ip Uh, I'd rather be able to feel secure going to the doctor and not worried that my check will be over $500 or some surprise. It is ridiculous that for most people going to the doctor is just not a financial option. We should be able to see our healthcare providers. End of story.

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' You really put those words in that order. This idea just existed inside you and you chose to share it with the world like it was totally normal and not completely disconnected from reality at all

greg_ip Free cake is an expensive desert when you are not picking up the tab.

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greg_ip Here in Australia I can’t stop going to the doctor. I go for kicks, spend hours there, why not, it’s free 🙄🙄🙄 thatdoesnthappen

greg_ip 'Oh no, people will be too healthy!' please sit all the way down....

greg_ip overuse? the emergency department is overused because people wait until the their symptoms are unmanageable and a simple visit to family practice dr at the onset of symptoms would have saved a ton of money and more importantly less human suffering

greg_ip Bullshit from someone worried by “unintended risk” when they should be worried about the intended risks of death/bankruptcy

greg_ip Sometimes it becomes obvious that you're owned by Rupert Murdoch

greg_ip Foxaganda

greg_ip In the last year I witnessed three different people in line at the pharmacy decline to get their medications because they could not afford them. It is safe to assume this happens at least once a day there. This needs to stop. Caring for your fellow man is not a weakness.

greg_ip This reminds me of when my broker explained that 'co-insurance' was to make me 'responsible for my own health care.' Because the only thing preventing me from just hanging out in the ER all day is the fact that I have to pay 70% of every bill! FFS

greg_ip Greg Ip, you should reconsider your overuse of strapline here.

greg_ip Sick people might get the care they need? Leading to needing more jobs for nurses and doctors and having to build more hospitals and clinics? Accessing MentalHealth resources might be common? Rich people might actually have to donate, not hoard, money? MedicareForAll

greg_ip Oh no The poors might Use some services

greg_ip Dude, no one wants to go to a doctor unless they need to

greg_ip Booking my appointment for my completely unneeded triple bypass.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? You’re right. I just had cochleaer implant surgery so I can hear again. With Medicare I would have had them add a third ear.

greg_ip HOW DO YOU OVERUSE BEING HEALTHY!?

greg_ip 'overuse of healthcare'

greg_ip Because evvvvvverybody loves to go to the hospital. That's where I spend my days off, just for the fun of it. 😡

greg_ip So if I understand correctly we have to let countless people experience financial ruin and death because we are worried a few might abuse the system?

greg_ip Oh God people will go to the doctor when they need to not just wait until they can afford it or it's bad to ignore. The horror.

greg_ip Legit thought this was the onion at first .

greg_ip Stupidest. Argument. Ever. 🧐

greg_ip o good point also if we give people healthcare they might live longer and we have to give them more healthcare checkmate!!!!

greg_ip I love all the great replies to this. Seeing through the BS!

greg_ip which is it? would we never be able to get appointments or would we all be skipping work to go to the doctor TOO much

greg_ip Are you fucking KIDDING with this?!

greg_ip No

greg_ip You could fund Medicare For All on what Trump spends on golf.

greg_ip 100 million American men like me have health insurance, and we refuse to go to the doctor until blood is coming out of our eyes. Giving everyone else insurance won't change that.

greg_ip If only other countries had similar health care systems to what Senator Warren proposes, so that we could get some sense of what might happen. But alas, this will be a case of first impression...🤔

greg_ip As a Canadian physician, my patients do not 'overuse' the health care system. Nobody likes spending 6 hours in an ER. You, sir, are either a shill for your present, broken system, or a goddamn idiot.

greg_ip Yesterday I wasn’t sick, yesterday I didn’t go to my doctor. Today I am sick, today I went to my doctor. All without a bill except for my prescription. My American friend has the same problem as me. She cannot go to her doctor as she can’t afford it. That is ridiculous.

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greg_ip As a recently retired physician, having spent 35 years in every conceivable situation solo private practice, single/multi speciality practices, HMOs, State and Federal Medical Centers/ Hospitals etc etc, I have seen the greed & corruption of the FOR-PROFIT system first hand.

greg_ip Like the ACA death boards ? Fear mongers all .

greg_ip oh yeag bc people LOVE sitting in waiting rooms, it's basically Six Flags. 🙄 Let's risk it!

greg_ip poor people might get too healthy

greg_ip I would totes get a prostate exam every day if Uncle Sam & Aunt ewarren. And all of the flu shots.

greg_ip When an elitist, rich white-centric newspaper tries to richsplain a common sense idea for the people

greg_ip Dude, my mother goes to urgent care or the ER every time she has the sniffles or stubs her toe (which is like every other week) so she's gonna cost the system thousands. I'm sure there's millions of people like her. It's a legit concern.

greg_ip This is utter rubbish. As a Brit with free at the point of use healthcare, I can confirm that I only use the NHS when I need to. Doesn't The USA want to have a well and healthy population?

greg_ip 💩 I mean really. That is complete and utter 🐂💩.

greg_ip Universal health care has been soooo demonized by the corrupt medical establishment and Wall Streett over the decades. At least a dozen advanced countries have successfully had it for many years, saving their citizens a ton of money.

What if US population, but TOO healthy?

greg_ip 🤡: “People will be too healthy!”

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare is fine by me

greg_ip Hi yes I would like some free surgery please. No I'm not sick or anything, I just like being operated on

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greg_ip Or, you know, people actually using healthcare who don't use it now because they have no insurance 🤷‍♂️

greg_ip Did Mr. Fantastic write this? cuz that's a stretch.

greg_ip Overuse of health care? You should've passed on this article.

greg_ip Universal health care COULD NEVER WORK ...unless you live in: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Chile Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Israel Italy Japan Netherlands New Zealand Norway Poland Portugal S Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey UK

greg_ip Are you suggesting it'll turn people into hypochondriacs?! That's absurd. There is no such thing as overuse of health care otherwise. Frankly, if I'd had proper access to health care when I was younger, I would not be in such bad shape now. 😡

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care'

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greg_ip Uh oh, under Warren’s plan, Americans might be too healthy! Watch out!

greg_ip Overuse is better than underuse

greg_ip Hello from the future (aka developed countries that do have a health care system) Unless you have a population of more than 40% of Hypochonder, this probably won't be an issue Look at us, we have health care and no health care related debt Like how do you forget that?

greg_ip It's not a well-worded article. And there's also an opinion piece about Dems favoring fixing Obamacare

greg_ip Recall Alan Grayson, readers ? The Florida Democrat who said the GOP health care plan was 'DIE QUICKLY ?' It took until this election for the proof to surface. Trump trying to savage Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare. Kentucky and Virginia showed you what to do. DEMS!

greg_ip Heaven forfend that people actually go to the doctor for things immediately or get preventative care, instead of waiting til they're mostly dead.

greg_ip Who wants to take. Day off work to overuse healthcare? Bueller?

greg_ip Maybe you could run a whole series on the theme of 'overuse of.' Overuse of empathy. Overuse of kindness. Overuse of decency. Overuse of not being an asshole.

greg_ip Overuse? How do you overly use a system designed to keep you healthy?

greg_ip ........is this satire

greg_ip Oooohhhh those pesky people trying to get preventative care.

greg_ip 🙄 is this the best you can do?

greg_ip Well it’s the WSJ. Enough said.

greg_ip Nop that’s not a thing. Lived in Canada for 50 years and had universal healthcare for all of it and never seen anyone ever do that. And I work in healthcare. A republican insurance lobby talking point

greg_ip No. The unintended consequence is pushing the narrative that Americans don't want to pay for healthcare. This is a lie. We don't want to be ripped off by greedy profit motives. I'll trade my premium for higher taxes anyday!!

greg_ip Motherfucker actually wrote this.

greg_ip THAT IS FAHKING STUPID!

greg_ip Wow, people being extra healthy. What a travesty.

greg_ip 'It's a slow Friday night...hey, I've got an idea! Let's go hang out at the local Emergency Room! After all, it's free now!'

greg_ip Yeah, Murdochs -- the first thing you know, under MEDICARE FOR ALL, WE'D HAVE HEALTHY AMERICANS RUNNING AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE.... YOU ONE-PERCENTERS SICKEN THE REST OF US -- HOW ABOUT THINKING OF OTHERS, FOR A CHANGE

greg_ip You mean poor people will start using it.

greg_ip Thank God that the wealthy are so virtuous, and never “overuse” healthcare or any other resources. You plutocratic propagandists are hilarious.

greg_ip Gosh I sure wouldn't hope people don't do things like overuse primary care checkups which would catch health issues at earlier stages vs waiting until it turns life-threatening because I can't afford to see the doctor more than once a year about a pain in my chest

greg_ip Yeah no, there is no such thing as 'over-use' of healthcare because your doctor and/or other medical specialists would treat people within reason. Healthcare isn't something you pick and choose, it's a service, it's something done for a reason, they don't just give anything out.

greg_ip Because, that's totally what happens in places like Canada... NOT.

greg_ip 'I was bored so I went in for my third prostate exam in a week'

greg_ip Can the poors get too healthy? That’s the real worry.

greg_ip what in the name of the christ jesus is 'overuse of health care'

greg_ip Hey WSJ, do you know how much UnitedHealth is saving in Medicaid costs by sponsoring housing for homeless individuals with expensive medical issues? Maybe if every American could get timely medical care and basic necessities like adequate food and shelter it’d fix alot of things.

greg_ip Stop publishing opinion pieces as if they actually have some merit other than to be laughed at. Unless that is your point, for people to laugh at greg_ip, in which case keep going.

greg_ip OK GREG

greg_ip We decades of data from many countries with universal health care. Plus point to were it shows 'Overuse of healthcare.' I'll wait.

greg_ip Oh man, better warn the youth the dangers of overdosing on healthcare.

greg_ip Rather THAT than folks dropping dead b/c they cannot afford their fucking insulin, RIGHT, WSJ

greg_ip Overuse of health care results in heathy people and costs less. WIN!

greg_ip 'Pool access may cause people to swim, officials warn'

greg_ip The WSJ might be that stupid, but a publicly funded health care system wouldn't be.

greg_ip When we finally get Medicare For All, I'm gonna have like 10 appendectomies. Just cause i can. OKbomer

greg_ip Not commenting on the merits of this editorial, but “overuse” is a real concern in all healthcare systems. EVERY system has some kind of mechanism for rationing, tacit or explicit. People often make intervention decisions without quality of life considerations.

greg_ip Yeah, we better not overuse healthcare. We should continue overusing opioids instead.

greg_ip Is 'overuse of health care' another way of saying 'staying alive'?

greg_ip 'poors should die instead of getting care !' Great take Greg

greg_ip 'yes hi, uhmm, i'll have one unneccesary intrusive surgery, please'

greg_ip This is the same “overuse” that people with good health insurance get to do, but god forbid the poors get to do it too

greg_ip I know this is supposed to be yet another hit on ewarren but.... is it really?!! Hahahaha. No! The answer is NO!

greg_ip the same way those with good dental coverage are constantly overusing their dentists? we know how everyone loves a good trip to the dentist or doctor.

greg_ip Absolutely. A huge, pernicious risk to society.

greg_ip Health care to Socialist/Communist Dems is legal pot and needle exchange programs for all. 😒👎

greg_ip How do you overuse healthcare? Are people out here doing flu shot scavenger hunts?

greg_ip ... What?

greg_ip Because who doesn’t like to go to the doctor every day?

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare is one of the reasons it’s so expensive as it is. Patients who have insurance don’t have to care about the cost so hospitals charge whatever they want. It’s like if I had grocery insurance, why would I buy only what I need? My insurance company’s paying

greg_ip “Overuse of healthcare”, you mean... uh, being healthy?

greg_ip Whereas now people may not go because they can't afford to and that's better?

greg_ip You see, the only reason Bezos doesn't overuse Healthcare, even though he can, is because he's smart, that's how he has a gazillion dollars. You plebs, on the other hand, will have kidney transplants for fun.

greg_ip Imagine working until you’re 75 when you figure it’s time to hang it up and living past 100 before you actually start to feel old! What a horrible world that’d be!

greg_ip Also known as preventative care. Which ends up reducing costs in the long run, because you know, prevention.

greg_ip What a fucking travesty that would be.

greg_ip okboomer

greg_ip I can’t see my boutique doctor J Hans Gruber, DO when I’d like to because he’s too busy treating patients. The poors should just die already Muffy!

greg_ip “Overuse”? 😂😂😂 Healthcare is UNDERUSED right now because people have to decide between paying rent or seeing a doctor!!

greg_ip In a swamp of bad takes, this is a real gold star winner of a bad take

greg_ip That is seriously the dumbest sentence I've read today.

greg_ip was 'overuse' a talking point to warn of the dangers prior to the prescription opioid epidemic?

greg_ip It must be terrifying to realize you're irrelevant, but all this flailing around isn't going to help.

greg_ip So people might get too healthy?

greg_ip dear WSJ: eat a bag of shit. love, everyone.

greg_ip Is there anything like overuse of health care? The writer of this article should show me that person who likes going to the hospital or who doesn't get tired of the waiting room. All I see about health care for all is that America will be better for it. Spain is a good example.

greg_ip You mean like the opioid crisis?

greg_ip You know that publishing pieces like this is 100% helping her, right? 😁

greg_ip Just say you hate poor people WSJ.

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greg_ip Egads! Poor people might live?! ...The horror...

greg_ip This tone-deaf bullshit is exactly what I’d expect from a cartoon villain

greg_ip 'overuse of health care' or as some like to call it preventative medicine. next these poor schlubs will want tetnaus shots, and mammograms, where will it end! 😱sarcasm aside. im from md and i've never forgotten the story of deamonte driver.

greg_ip Thank you, Rupert Murdoch's minions, for warning us of the threats posed by 'overuse of health care.' The horror! The horror!

greg_ip Just one respectful question: WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

greg_ip Which is why the health care industry should never be a for-profit industry.

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care'. How dare people want be healthier and live longer. Are you going to tell us next that breathing oxygen is over-rated?

greg_ip I hate when I get overcared

greg_ip OK everybody is going on about the problem of people not having healthcare,,, but did you consider the danger of everybody having too much healthcare

greg_ip In Canada we call this a Tuesday

greg_ip Oh no, the horror...

greg_ip Welcome to ratio Wednesday!!

greg_ip does the same principle apply to single payer armed forces

greg_ip Yeah we wouldn't want people to have too much access to healthcare. That would be first world.

greg_ip Ah, the unintended dark humor of late-stage capitalism!

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' seems to be a better 'problem' than parents going bankrupt because their baby was in the NICU for a month... but that's just me.

greg_ip Overuse of health care? LOL

greg_ip Lol what

greg_ip There is no fucking thing as 'overuse of healthcare' assholes.

greg_ip the founding fathers 'first amendment' plan risks unintended consequences such as overuse of free speech

greg_ip And yet somehow the rest of the civilized world provides proper health care to all of its citizens and still pays far less per capita than the USA.

greg_ip Hypocritical take since Wall Street Journal subscribers all went and got unnecessary vanity labotomies in the 80's to be more like Reagan.

greg_ip Oh no, fewer breakthrough drugs? You mean there might not be as many miracle cures keeping wealthy people alive into their hundreds while middle-class Americans die from basic injuries and ancient diseases they can't afford to treat? Nooooooooo

greg_ip Yeah, up here in Canada people get elective surgeries for the hell of it. I got my leg muscles shortened so I could jump better.

greg_ip This article is absolutely pathetic. Wow. Just wow.

greg_ip This is reprehensible. It's an implicit acknowledgment that our current system rations care and an overt defense of that inefficient and inhumane status quo.

greg_ip I love waiting in doctors offices. Such comfy chairs, stellar decor. If we get Medicare for all i might start hanging out in ER waiting rooms. Fun times for all.

greg_ip I bet the lines will be longer than those for Cronuts once people get wind of those 'free' colonoscopies they've been all excited about!!! Where do we sign? Srsly tho, this is fearmongering horseshit.

greg_ip if part of your assertion relies oh inflating the value of hospital admininstrations im not gonna believe youve actually ever talked to someone whos worked at a hospital

greg_ip Healthcare!? Oh boy now I can get me some fancy new diseases like gout or anal fistula!

greg_ip Omg, if this passes, there might be poor people in the waiting room and nobody wants that. Some of them might not even speak English!

greg_ip Sure, I'll just skip going to Urgent Care next time I slice my finger open.

greg_ip imma finally get all my kidneys removed for that slimmer look.

greg_ip its been proven that a doctor telling you several times a year that youre fine, or that your meds need to go up/down is vastly cheaper than the person that waits until they're very sick to see the doctor

greg_ip Yes let’s continue using $1k a month health insurance plans with $6k deductibles so that people don’t use their healthcare that they’re paying for.

greg_ip EAT. THE. FUCKING. RICH!

greg_ip Didn't read the article but as a former RN Case Manager I know that what you want is to reduce ER visits while increasing primary care visits. Maybe the concern is about overuse of the ER. We just need good case managers to educate pts a/b primary care.

greg_ip Won’t someone think of the poor, overworked doctors and nurses and janitors please!

greg_ip LOL “overuse of healthcare”. Only in the USA would this not be a parody headline. GFY

greg_ip I know I would demand weekly melanoma screenings and my doctor could not say no.

greg_ip As if the rich don’t already overuse healthcare in the US because the hospitals and doctors are FUCKING INCENTIVISED TO DO POINTLESS INVESTIGATION AND TREATMENT FOR PROFIT.

greg_ip Ate you all really that stupid? Unbelievable

greg_ip one time my cousin's boyfriend's sister used too many healthcares and almost died really makes u think god bless

greg_ip Things a murderous villain would say.

Imagine being so morally bankrupt that the idea of people being able to remain healthy more effectively is abhorrent.

greg_ip 'Overuse of health care' = the poor actually getting the care they need Gfy my guy

greg_ip Hey WSJ, your willful ignorance is showing.

greg_ip jonas’ salk’s “polio vaccines for all” plan risks unintended consequences like overuse of vaccines. we should really consider the ethics of giving people free polio vaccines because then they might want OTHER vaccines

greg_ip Oh, no, the poor might live longer, healthier lives.

greg_ip Don't worry, she won't scrap anything. She's bought now.

greg_ip Love to go to the hospital.

greg_ip Yeah, I much prefer the current system where I don't have healthcare and when I get it through work it will be primarily for emergency care with high deductibles so I *have* to underuse it.

greg_ip Overuse? Do they think we're a nation of hypochondriacs. We must be, right? You can just work through being sick anyway. Like may dad. Who almost killed himself working through being sick.

greg_ip Good god. You mean I might use my government given healthcare to become healthy? And a productive member of society? God forbid.

greg_ip Or..imagine this...I could go to the doctor when I need to go, instead of ignoring symptoms.

greg_ip Americans will finally be able to go to doctors when they have seemingly unimportant symptoms and catch diseases and cancers early thus increasing their survival chance. What a fucking disaster...

greg_ip Waiting at the doctor's office is famously something people do for fun.

greg_ip That boat done sailed years ago. People run to the doctor or ER for EVERY little ache and pain anymore. A dynamic cooked up by the media--constantly hyping 'dangerous' illness-- and 'for profit' health care. Keep those customers coming in and those cash registers ringing.

greg_ip Please take this garbage, set it on fire and huff the fumes until you pass out.

greg_ip tfw you're overusing healthcare

greg_ip Right. ‘Cause everyone loves going to the doctor. 🙄

greg_ip Oh no, people will actually worry about their health when they don’t have to worry about going into debt for just a checkup?! Say it ain’t so!

greg_ip is this what you were getting at?

greg_ip You mean there will be issues when we turn the healthcare industry into the DMV? Who would’ve thought?

greg_ip Stupid premise.

greg_ip I haven’t used the word ghoul in my ENTIRE life as much as I have in 2019.

greg_ip Too much Healthcare is a leading cause of death

greg_ip I think its time Greg got a new job

greg_ip Oh man, the horror of sick people using heath care! AAAAAA.

greg_ip This is almost comically ghoulish

greg_ip As opposed to the underuse of healthcare because you got thrown into an HSA in your late 30s while you have 2 snot nosed kids who get germs flung on them by other snot nosed kids so you can never fund said HSA and need to keep paying deductibles out of your own pocket. Sweet.

greg_ip Right, because people go to see the doctor just for kicks.

greg_ip How do I overuse my healthcare?

greg_ip Wat

greg_ip By the [older] people that are already burdening the system and making young healthy people carry the cost of an industry... If anything more people under single payor will reduce costs because on average most people aren't getting sick/treated. That's how insurance works.

greg_ip Just go to the doctor to meet your friends catch up on the news and have a day out.

greg_ip You guys probably already could tell this because of the ratio & ur big Wall Street brains but this is a Very Bad Tweet

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greg_ip 😱 the horror of people taking care of their health 🙄. You gotta be kidding me with this article.

greg_ip OH NO...WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE TOO HEALTHY AND GO TO THE DOCTORS BEFORE SOMETHING GOES WRONG!

greg_ip Yes, you will have an initial spike in utilization as people who didn’t have access to care now seek care. Guess what that prevents? The current spikes in ER visits by those without coverage.

greg_ip The poors might abuse health care and not die in sufficient numbers

greg_ip 'overuse of healthcare' jfc. there is no such thing god forbid, people actually have preventive healthcare and americans become healthier

greg_ip hi greg, you're an idiot with bad 'opinions'!

greg_ip OH NO

greg_ip Do not, my friends, become addicted to water.

greg_ip Yeah because only boomers should be able to go to the doctor every single day

greg_ip When you're really mad poor people might not die

greg_ip They're right, I'd go to the doctor literally every time I needed one. What an abuse of the system!

greg_ip Can't have human beings too healthy now can we

greg_ip WTF is 'overuse of health care'?

greg_ip Overuse of health care?

greg_ip What they mean is all those people who don't go to the doctor today because they can't afford it will actually go $$$$

greg_ip If only we had examples of countries who have done this. Warren shouldn't take the US into such uncharted territory.

greg_ip Oh man I can't wait! It's gonna be like Pokemon gotta catch 'em all! Cholera! Scarlet Fever! Diptheria! Gout! MONONUCLEOSIS I CHOOSE YOU!

greg_ip This is offensive and Greg Ip should rethink his life.

greg_ip Yes very frightening that everyone getting adequate health care might cost money. We might even have to *faints* raise taxes. Clearly scarier than people begging for money on gofundme to keep their loved ones alive.

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greg_ip Nobody yearns to take time out of their day to go to the doctor's office. If they are feeling consistently healthier and happier, people will be less likely to make unexpected visits. & Better people overuse health care than be overprescribed opioids that you folks push on them.

greg_ip What is overuse of health care? That makes zero sense.

greg_ip Narrator (while gasping for air due to laughing): that is just utter crap

greg_ip Being healthy is sooo overrated, right ?

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greg_ip Duh, it’s just like when the Democrats crammed ObamaCare down our throats. Pelosi said “Just Pass it and then we’ll find out what’s in the legislation”.

Yes, people might go for preventive medicine instead of the emergency room.

greg_ip What the hell is overuse of health care? Be better , your corporate masters may hate Medicare for all, but the American people don't.

greg_ip The poors love free surgery!

greg_ip Delete yourselves

greg_ip Oh No! Not people going to the doctor regularly! That would make civil and empathetic!

greg_ip Haha solid bit. Good joke.

greg_ip This is disingenuous and frankly disgusting.

greg_ip Reason 278 why I canceled my WSJ subscription.

greg_ip “But innovation will stop it it’s not profitable.” I know scientists, and they are more than happy to sit in a lab figuring stuff out as long as their program is funded just for the sake of figuring stuff out. Not all of us are motivated by money.

greg_ip Overuse of health care is an Oxymoron. Most people UNDER use in the current system. All current Medicare recipients still have co- pays, secondary insurance, set days covered, prescription plans. Medicare is still cost contained, patients still pay. Read up on guidelines✌

greg_ip This is a bad take and you should feel bad for publishing it.

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare. Did you read that sentence out loud before you published it?

greg_ip reminds of generals getting troops killed by denying them the most modern weapons so they don't waste ammunition.

greg_ip Wow that gave my brain a tumor, good thing I've got SSOOO much health care it'll just melt away.

greg_ip Overuse? Wow, what a hot take. Because there is nothing anyone wants more than doing some quality extra doctor/hospital time. Everyone meet me down at the ER, it's a freebie party!

greg_ip So, we might, go to the doctor more? Have more than two vials of insulin a month (better not have any highs). Or wait - see an Endocronologist without a prize fight for a referral from my doctor who literaly ends every sentence with “well im not sure if it’s covered?”

greg_ip That's not happened in ANY country that has social healthcare. That's some top notch journalism there.🙄

greg_ip tbh greg looks like a guy who visits maybe more than needed.

greg_ip What if we reversed the effects of the opioid crisis that has lead to decreasing life expectancy in the United States? That would be bad, right? Or good?

greg_ip damn, now that you mention it, I'd really like to eat a can of old civil war-era canned meat so I can over use Medicare for All and get treatment for botulism because that sounds fun and really I'm doing nothing but being a drain on society for wanting to be healthy 🙃

greg_ip OMG! How could people WANT to go see a doctor and having their health issues attended? How do we dare think people want to be healthy? *faints*

greg_ip OVERUSE OF HEALTHCARE! When's the last time anyone got two physicals in a year?

greg_ip going to the hospital to get hip surgery just for the thrill of it

greg_ip You people are sociopaths

greg_ip I didn’t realize words could sound so dumb

greg_ip Just as the Bible says 'Wouldn't it suck if poor people survived longer?'

greg_ip Yeah this is true. Once healthcare becomes universal, perfectly healthy people are gonna go to the doctors and be like doctor! Over-health me!

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greg_ip Wow! Rest of world (mostly) realizes the value of a healthier society and work force but, here, if a company can't make dime on it (or abuse their monopoly to make $$$) then it ain't good for us. Incredibly bad take but, let us not forget the source & why we are seeing this now.

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greg_ip no that's not a thing

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greg_ip You mean preventive care, which is cheaper than reactive care. 🙄

greg_ip Its definitely better that people die than overuse their healthcare

greg_ip Yes, first day it goes into effect, I’m getting 12 mammograms, a full body MRI, and a colonoscopy!

greg_ip I will personally just keep getting unnecessary medical procedures until the WSJ is broke. “Yes I do need another arm, thank you.”

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greg_ip MURDOCH TABLOID CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

greg_ip Unintended consequences like making leaving a terrible job easier and also not choosing between dying and bankruptcy

greg_ip Whaatttt!? People won’t wait until they are incredibly sick to see a doctor? Can you imagine!?!!

greg_ip Wait, do you mean that sick people will actually seek medical care if they can afford it?!

greg_ip how dare u go to the doctor and not the er when you’re ready to die

greg_ip What the holy fuck is 'overuse of healthcare'. It's not like junk food - you still need a medical professional to diagnose and treat you - ergo, you don't get treated unless you need it, meaning it's not overuse by design.

greg_ip Btw a useful synonym of “overuse,” for anyone who’s not used to wsj elitism, is “use.”

greg_ip And US government bankruptcy.

greg_ip Overuse Overuse? Fuck you. Let’s just get to the place where people actually see a doctor when they are sick and where they can afford prescription meds. Then we’ll spend time clutching pearls over supposed “overuse.”

greg_ip Overcharging in price gouging that we currently experience isn’t a consequence 🙄. How many people have to make a choice between buying food or buying prescriptions in this country?

greg_ip Oh no. People will actually see doctor's and whatnot. The horror.

greg_ip You know those poors have such little self restraint when it comes to not dying from preventable illnesses. Shameful.

greg_ip Compared to having to choose death or bankruptcy.

greg_ip This is an embarrassing (for you) headline.

greg_ip Yep, and then what the poor big Pharma will do with all of these drugs !!

greg_ip WSJ not even hiding it.

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greg_ip This nagging cough I've had for months, I think I'll go get it checked out finally. That unexplained bruising on my child, I can finally have a doctor, GASP!, look at it.

greg_ip Oh no what if people get TOO HEALTHY That would be a DISASTER.

greg_ip Whoops, I bought too much insulin.

greg_ip HAHAHAHAHA! only rich people would say such an asinine thing.

greg_ip Lmao, is this satire?

greg_ip Yes, god forbid ppl actually USE healthcare. The fuck is wrong with you?!

greg_ip Hope you and all your fellow Boomers are enjoying this extremely wrong hot take.

greg_ip Get fucked boomer

greg_ip Ah yes, the proper amount of health care is enough not to die but to still be generally unhealthy

greg_ip Yeah I’ll take the no.4 appendectomy with a CT scan and a gallbladder to go

greg_ip Fuck right off.

greg_ip I prefer “overuse” than the current ABUSE of insurance companies. In addition, countries that already have this healthcare system are doing just fine. But, god forbid we are too healthy! Warren2020

greg_ip “overuse of health care”? That sounds a lot better than being afraid of going to the doctor because you might lose your house. tonedeaf

greg_ip you have got to be fucking kidding me

greg_ip Yes. Heaven forbid that people actually get healthy in every way possible. That could lead to happiness. Can't have that.

greg_ip I'm gearing up for monthly pap smears and weekly colonoscopies, going to rule

greg_ip Greedy doctors will go into other professions instead. GOOD - Call me crazy, but I want a Doctor's motive to be more about caring for people than accumulating a mansion full of cash.

greg_ip I am here for the ratio

greg_ip 'How will we keep the lower class in servitude if they are able to seek physical and mental care without our permission?!'

greg_ip Healthcare costs can only change when individuals are held accountable for their poor health habits. Smoking, overweight, high salt and fat diets, etc.

greg_ip Overuse? You mean people could actually go to the doctor for a problem? This would be called normal use. I know it doesn’t seem realistic because we haven’t seen it in a while. That’s why it seems so foreign now.

greg_ip Who the fuck would go to the doctor if they didn’t have to?

greg_ip Great point! Like, if kids don't have to worry about whether they'll end up homeless while they also watch their mom die of cancer, will they even be able to function in the real world?

greg_ip I worry about the moral hazard created by publishing idiotic tripe such as this.

greg_ip overuse of health care ... really is that the best you could do ?

greg_ip You can’t overuse a human right man

greg_ip You people are ridiculous.

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greg_ip oh god anything but that - healthy people might want other things like good-paying jobs and decent housing

greg_ip Anyone else out there avoiding doctors because insurance sucks?

greg_ip Yes, we wouldn’t want the poors to be too healthy, would we?

greg_ip Considering how many people have probably not seen their doctors in a long time there must have been an underuse, so it should balance out. 😏

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greg_ip Whoa yeah slow down its sort of a problem that 10s of thousands of people die from lack of healthcare but can you imagine if instead some people were 'overusing' it and getting TOO heathy holy hell what a conundrum.

greg_ip Overuse?

greg_ip now you heartless money-worshippers are just trolling us, right? I get it--clicks are clicks are $$$

greg_ip Things that make you go

greg_ip THE POORS DO NOT DESERVE HEALTH CARE. THEY SHOULD BE CONTENT TO BASK IN OUR PRESENCE. MAYBE OUR WEALTH AND HEALTH WILL TRICKLE DOWN.

greg_ip As opposed to paying for it and not using it? Am I missing something? It seems like you haven’t thought this position out........but I know it’s a tough haul to advocate for the hoarding of money meant to pay insurance claims. 🤣😂🤣😂

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greg_ip Just listen to all the commercials for Medicare on TV and Internet! There is a whole industry that does it’s best to milk this program to pay for anything and everything you could want related to health. 🙄🙄🙄🙄Just imagine what will happen if it covered from cradle to grave.

greg_ip Beware the unintended consequences of not going bankrupt if you get sick or need surgery. Remember when the wall street journal actually used to be a newspaper that was good?

greg_ip Careful or people will think you're a conservative rag.

greg_ip this is going well

greg_ip F.... off

greg_ip Hmmm.... over use of health care vs. Bankruptcy and preventable deaths. 🤔 that's a tough one.

greg_ip Really reaching here How ‘bout over use of the government to solve corporate disputes on the tax payers dime, or corporations running to defense department to for “spare” revenue? How many tax payer services does the tax free company Amazon get footed by people w/o a living wage?

greg_ip I have excellent employer provided health insurance and still have to be close to death to want to go see a doctor, but sure, people are just gonna go for the fun of it.

greg_ip Yeah, I'm always going in for those unnecessary surgeries and medications for diseases I don't have. WTF is 'overuse of health care' Is that simply 'poor people getting access to services and meds previously unobtainable because they couldn't afford it'?

greg_ip What the fuck is overuse of health care?! Do you mean normal level of care since people can afford it now?!

greg_ip hahaha what? wouldn’t people to be healthy or anything

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greg_ip Galaxy brained shit right here

greg_ip Oh ffs.

greg_ip encroaching on McCardles beat i see

greg_ip I agree Greg, it’s just the worst when the poors get access to the same medical care as columnists!

greg_ip It’s fucking HEALTHCARE... Not AXE body spray

greg_ip How can a country work if the poor aren't dying of cancer?

greg_ip Oh man. Non-rich Americans, and their wanting to be too healthy so that they don't do things like die, and needlessly suffer from treatable illnesses... Can't have that! My rich daddy always said, 'if we don't oppress the poor and steal all their money, how will WE buy 9 yachts?'

greg_ip She is not thinking her plan through at all. Just like she did not think before she released her DNA results ... who thought showing that she Was 1/1024th Native American proved her point?

greg_ip You mean as opposed to having to go to the emergency room for minor injuries/common colds?

greg_ip Oh god. Too much healthcare?! Too much health!?

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greg_ip IF WE GIVE THE PEOPLE HEALTHCARE THEY MIGHT USE IT 😱

greg_ip Preventative care: Bad

greg_ip Getting my 6th flu shot this year! Gaming the system baby !

greg_ip LOL 'woah we dont want the poors healthy now, do we?'

greg_ip When my parents got old enough to have Medicare, they would get diseases on purpose just so they could keep going to the hospital! My dad said he just really loved the sugar cookies they gave you with the meatloaf.

greg_ip People accessing their doctor more often isn't an 'unintended consequence' of M4A. It's an *intended consequence*

greg_ip This is the same sentiment as when meghan mccain exoresses fears of 'just anybody' walking in and getting healthcare.

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greg_ip Will you just go full mask off and say removing the employer based model would empower workers too much instead of this shit written by and for idiots?

greg_ip It's true,ever since going on my wife's insurance plan, I get a prostate exam every Tuesday

greg_ip Does Greg remember to swallow when he sucks Koch with such vigor?

greg_ip So in other words... We already ration Healthcare

greg_ip You never hear about the unintended consequences of rich people getting tax breaks being that they’ll have too much money.

greg_ip Poor people might get healthy. We can’t have that.

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greg_ip lol this is the immortan joe argument where you ask people not to get too used to having water.

greg_ip Tuesday is Soylent Green Day.

greg_ip Is this a joke? I rather some people over use than many not having access to healthcare.

greg_ip *gasp* maybe even... preventative care!?

greg_ip Overuse of taking care of your health? You just want people to die

greg_ip Some people *might* take advantage of a public health care system; therefore deprive all people of a public health care system. I'm surprised. Today you missed the logic boat.

greg_ip Lmfbo- really Propaganda FoxNews? So, we’ll be too healthy in America? We will practice proactive as opposed to reactive healthcare? And our insulin will only cost $0. That’s a risk I’m ready for.

greg_ip “Overuse of health care” give me a fucking break.

greg_ip WSJ. Come on already. Wwe know you don’t want progressive politic,s you want the same old same old corporate loving Dems.

greg_ip Me, share a hospital with a poor? What in the trashy nouveau riche McMansion is this?

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greg_ip This is the most transparently fear-driven criticism of rich folks afraid to pay their fair share I can possibly imagine. “Overuse of health care.” Fuck off eith this hilariously out of touch take, greg_ip

greg_ip Sounds like you are trolling us Greg

greg_ip Yea the last thing this county needs is people trying to be healthy! How dare they!

greg_ip oh, no. People might actually go to the doctor when they need to instead of only when they can afford to.

greg_ip Wtf are you even talking about

greg_ip You mean by going to a doctor when symptoms are just starting instead of waiting until it's too late to do anything but prepay funeral expenses?

greg_ip Come on 'man'! The real unintended consequences are: not enough doctors & nurses, not enough hospitals & clinics & most of all not enough $$$!

greg_ip WTF? Sounds like an excuse to continue lining the pockets of rich insurance executives so that people can’t get coverage.

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greg_ip I literally can’t believe these gargoyles think that people using there healthcare coverage too often is a bad thing. At least everyone would have coverage. It is literally the most disingenuous position of all time. Lethal levels of poo-brain on display.

greg_ip Really?

greg_ip What. the fuck. does that mean?

greg_ip My last words, as I pass away from a treatable illness: 'At least the C*gna executives are okay'

greg_ip agreed, like Greg I’m also deeply troubled by the possibility of low net worth people overusing health care and thereby not dying from treatable illnesses

greg_ip greg the egg

greg_ip “Overuse?” You mean the consequences of poor people getting healthcare and people not going bankrupt because they get sick? I don’t see a downside.

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greg_ip Ughh overusing health Clare sounds so awful. How can we prevent this catastrophe from happening

greg_ip If you’re referring to people going to the doctor at the first sign of illness or injury instead of waiting & getting worse, causing massive hospital bills that can result in bankruptcy & ruin, then sure, I guess more people will “overuse” healthcare

greg_ip Did you think this through? Overuse of health care? Really? Because everyone LOVES going to the doctor for no reason. Lol wtf is wrong with you people.

greg_ip Overuse?

greg_ip People might have TOO MUCH healthcare

greg_ip Overuse.... ugh, looks like 'the poors' want to see a doctor, too!

greg_ip I’m gonna get so many free knee replacements oh man

greg_ip OVER USE. YOU SICK BASTARDS, AN LONG AS YOU GET YOUR HEALTH CARE IS THAT IT.

greg_ip This is stupid🤣🤣

greg_ip Pretty sure use of healthcare is the intended result

guess I'll just die

greg_ip That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard

greg_ip Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good

greg_ip This is a dumb opinion and you should be heckled for it.

greg_ip Every op ed against Warren you guys publish just makes her more popular. You know this, right?

greg_ip “Overuse of health care”. Seriously. Do you guys even listen to yourselves? Do you understand how fundamentally evil you sound?

greg_ip So, if more people have insurance, more people will us it? Do go on.

greg_ip We have this issue now though. Whether its M4A or another form of public option, there needs to be a major education focused on healthcare starting at the GP's office and not the emergency room.

greg_ip You mean like preventive care? Like getting an issue diagnosed before it becomes a crisis? So people don't die from insulin rationing or an infected tooth? You greedy vultures.

greg_ip More people living, and being able to afford to do so, means more customers are able to buy your shit, Mr Capitalist.

greg_ip God forbid people want to double check on their health!!!

greg_ip “Overuse” = brown people getting healthcare. 🙄

greg_ip overuse of healthcare is not a thing

greg_ip I love going to the doctor and it is only the prohibitive cost that prevents me from doing it every day

greg_ip The Sociopath Journal

greg_ip Can greg_ip forfeit his healthcare if he thinks it’s so unnecessary?

greg_ip LOL 'overuse of healthcare' LOL 'risks' LOL it would be just terrible to move from the set of risks we have now, such as death and bankruptcy, to the risk of 'overuse of healthcare.' WSJ, truly in the vanguard of morality.

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greg_ip Going to the doctor should be reserved for people who REALLY need it, like the super-wealthy and Greg Ip, probably.

greg_ip That tool (of course husband is Greg) is never allowed to visit a doctor again AND we are eating him within the first few days of the revolution. EatTheRich

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greg_ip oh, for crying out loud

greg_ip If our children become too healthy, it's possible that they may never stop growing, potentially leading to chronic Kong—or Son of Kong—attacks.

greg_ip Rich folks worried the poors would live longer if they 'overuse' health care.

greg_ip Will not win in a general election , need a moderate

greg_ip “overuse of health care” LOL😅🤣😂LOL

greg_ip Overuse of healthcare? Who goes to the doctor's office for fun? Shouldn't we be more concerned about UNDERUSE of healthcare by those who are sick, but can't afford to see a doctor?

greg_ip Ghouls.

greg_ip Never thought of it like this. Good take!

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' Yeah guys, just be a little sick or a little injured constantly. Wouldn't want people to be able to afford to have a healthy body and mind

greg_ip The horror! Healthy people! NOOOO! Will someone please think of the (healthy) children? Why won’t someone think of the (healthy) children?

greg_ip Oh no, you mean people might go to the doctor when they're sick?

greg_ip I say this as politely as I can. Go fuck yourselves. Warren2020

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greg_ip greg_ip is from Canada, where they have universal healthcare. He also wrote a book about how danger and taking risks is good.

greg_ip Yeah everybody’s going to go to the doctor just for fun

greg_ip 'Overuse of healthcare' Yeah, I'm gonna go to the doctor every week because I get my health care paid for.

greg_ip ROTFLMAO this takes the WSJ prize

greg_ip What a bad take, telling millions who cant afford healthcare that some may overuse it. Thats telling peoole that they are trying to be too healthy.

greg_ip Free boob job for all. 🙂🙂

greg_ip uhhh - people getting too healthy

greg_ip Beware? More like be terrified.

greg_ip oh yeah, i’m a masochist who wants to overuse my healthcare. this is the article you get when the people who work there view everything through a business lens

greg_ip Just substitute 'use' here and say what you really mean

greg_ip If Warren is elected, Congress is insane if Medicare for all is approved & private insurance programs abandoned. Medicare, prepaid for 54 years has been grossly mismanaged by the government and is facing insolvency in ~2027 + or - the normal government egregious errors. FRAUD

greg_ip People will be TOO healthy and happy! We can't have that!

greg_ip “Don’t you go getting TOO healthy, proles.”

greg_ip Boomer fuckery

greg_ip 'Overuse' = 'Seeing the doctor when you're sick.' Whatever you got in trade for selling off your soul, it wasn't worth it.

greg_ip Risk vs reward here is a bit obvious.

greg_ip Can rationed healthcare ever be overused by folks waiting in line for treatment?

greg_ip Lol 😂

greg_ip Canada is an example...Canadians come to US for surgery because wait times are months and months

greg_ip Drivel.

greg_ip Uncovered or under-covered people will often require a 'catch up' to where they might have been if they had good coverage all along. Other Western countries with universal healthcare don't find overuse to be the case.

greg_ip How dare people want to not let conditions get worse

greg_ip Right now we have overuse by doctors in a for-profit system that rewards testing and procedures, and under-use by patients who have enormous deductibles, co-insurance, and co-pays on top of ridiculous premiums.

greg_ip OH NO PEOPLE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET PREVENTATIVE CARE!!! is a... take. A very bad take. But a take nonetheless.

greg_ip Truly frightening that some take her utter crap seriously

greg_ip BS. WSJ is in the pocket of the Trump Bankruptcy Party and has the nerve to talk about Warren's plans. Y'all Scared!

greg_ip I’ll never forget the day during a health care negotiation when my employer looked me straight in the eye and said our colleagues didn’t know how to keep costs down. I represented educators with masters degrees. Obnoxious then, obnoxious now. And, dumb as a rock.

greg_ip How in the world can healthcare be overused. People love waiting for 2 hours to see a doctor while being told nothing is wrong 😕😕

greg_ip Over-use? By who? Those who like to wait months & years in lines

greg_ip We'll let the fear of overusing healthcare stop us from covering people who don't have it to begin with?

greg_ip Greg, you thought this was clever, didn't you?

greg_ip Ya think? Free stuff means stuff gets abused?!?! REALLY?!?!?

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