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Some experts caution that the data collected from wastewater could also lead to privacy concerns, especially because samples are often gathered from public sources without individual consent.

 

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Last time I checked, no name-labelmaker sticker anywhere has even the remotest possibility of staying on shite.

If CBC were half as critical as banks and landlords as they are of testing public waste water.

Scoop: Canucks panic over poop snoops

Isn't the same true of air sampling.

There is no legal precedent protecting privacy of public information, especially where said data is not traceable back to an individual. I'm concerned you are inserting an abstract and unfounded argument into dealing with an existing real world threat. That's is NOT journalism.

Let me give my opinion through my cell phone that is tracking my every GPS move and every website I google: DON'T TRACK MY SHIT!

bullshit does not deserve a more civilized response

feel free to sift through my shit and piss, why would i care about that

This has PP all over it. The Conservative movement.

How about a story on the incredible data malfeasance by adriandix ?

Never heard of a court-ordered poop sample-it's usually saliva for DNA purposes & COVIDisAirborne. Maybe consider a 😷 to protect against expelling your DNA in the air in case they start sampling that, too. I mean, seems logical next step after you start sh*tting in a bucket.

Well that is a sh*tty excuse for reporting 'Experts' should be in quotations Sewage is probably the most anonymized source of data possible

Not true. They aren’t using a specific address’s waste water

You want my shit you can have it

My poops have rights!

Good luck stopping anyone from monitoring your poop if you insist on shitting it out into the world without a care.

Plus, the article fails to account for Taco Tuesdays.

OH shit. Are you saying civilization has a plumbing problem?

“From my cold, dead, poop filled hands.”

People are worried that someone might trawl through human garbage to collect private information, but we already have Facebook.

Privacy in Canadian institutions are often an excuse to shovel money to privacy consultants, line one’s pockets and cripple projects of political competitors or anyone not amenable to shovelling money to privacy consultants

So I should stop autographing my turds, or

Let me know when you find cocaine in Doug Ford's toilet.

And here I thought cbc was more credible than US news outlets.

I'll go further and say, flush toilets themselves are unethical.

Lol!

Oh who gives a shit. Literally and figuratively.

Lololol. You’re fvcking kidding, right? Right?!?!?

Oh brother. 🤦‍♀️

Breathing likewise raises privacy concerns because you’re breathing air that other people previously breathed and you didn’t get a notarized consent form from each of them. You can learn all kinds of invasive things, like how people smell!

That is just ridiculous. Like seriously. Who the hell thought this was okay to write?

If you don’t want your microbes or drugs to show up in collective wastewater tests, give me a break and go shit in the bushes.

Covid? I swear if media would stop covering it, we wouldn't even notice it

Possibly THE dumbest news release ever. Worried about who is looking at your poop many kilometers downstream? Dont flush. Bury it in your yard ya wierdos.

That is BS. It is the govt trying to take away the method of tracking COVID levels within the community to allow them to pretend COVID is over. Next they we refuse to post of hospital cases for the same reason! Shameful! CovidIsNotOver FordFailedOntario cdnpoli

This is the dumbest shit I’ve heard all week! Like literally 💩

you gotta be shitting me!!

If concerned I would suggest not flushing.

Stirring up trouble where there is none.

So then bring back PCR testing

This will clear all this up in a second....if any people complain about this as privacy, then they must not use Facebook. If you use Facebook, you dont give a damn about any privacy breeches at all...ever. none.

Dude, all our data got collected and sold years ago. Poop is just going too far apparently.

This inflammatory garbage reporting should only result in helping Mr Orr make a career transition to the National Enquirer or other Postmedia propoganda outlet... complete nonsensical garbage that should be wayyyy below the standard CBC should expect CdnMediaFail

Did the coronavirus write this article?

Yet another force fallacy. Another attempt to suppress/eliminate data. Meanwhile half the people I know, have, or have recently had covid.

It’s the same as when you put your trash out, police don’t need a warrant or consent.

Exactly how does one contact trace excrement in wastewater systems? Do they think it comes with address labels on it?

That’s not a thing.

This is utterly absurd. 🤡🤡

A new excuse to stop testing and continue to pretend that Covid is gone?

Look out. Covid deniers are going to hoard their waste instead of toilet paper.

What privacy? Who knows whose shit and piss the tests come from? Doesn’t that crap like all mingle together in the sewers and wastewater treatment plants? Get outta here.

Typical bill sh.. as usual. 🤬🤬🤬 I swear they want to keep us as ignorant as possible because more and more people are getting sick.

LOL. If I let my sh*t go down the drain into the public system, it's now in the public domain.

I would classify this as de-identified data, with no possibility of re-identification. What happened in HK and Singapore won't happen in Toronto. Because Toronto only has 4 wastewater treatment plants, not one for every apartment building (1/2)

Not news. Nobody gives a shit. Caution, instead, against the mass disabling event taking place.

People could always have inspected your wastewater. If you didn't want them to you should keep it to yourself.

The argument boils down to a slippery slope argument. meh.

Ridiculous!!

😂 😂 sure, as soon as an idiot can prove which turd is their’s. 😂 😂

Consider the flush of a toilet consent.

Clickbait. 'Experts like Ghaeli say that while the data can be very precise, there's no way to identify an individual even if they detect a single positive case.'

That stinks 🙃

Non story. Wastewater is public domain garbage…

People need to find real stuff to complain about

Seriously? Once you flush it's no longer yours. If you want to be possessive, keep it in your house

Comparing with what China does to its citizens on a daily basis, it is not an appropriate or even reasonable anecdote. Too bad home stool tests aren’t available if detection in waste water is quicker than symptoms.

Lazy.

Stuff the shit consent it is time public health came ahead of the selfish

The correct term is idiots and not experts. I have given up, frankly, on journalists being able to distinguish the two.

If the samples are collected from combined wastewater, with no possible way to back-track to individuate particular samples back to their origin, then there's no ethics or privacy concerns.

This is absurd! Trying to keep us in the dark about Covid! This is Ford’s narrative. VoteFordOutJune2

Are they taking the samples directly from their bodies? Wtf privacy are they babbling about?

So true, my poo did not consent to this inquiry

I feel this story creates fear stoked on someone's presumptions . Reality Truth

They do this in prison. There's a sort of plug thing where everything is collected and monitored in each cell. Talk abour privacy violations.

Keywords I read here are “common good”, “theoretical”, “might”. I see where it’s possible , from examples quoted, but common good is what’s important.

Wtf?

This is like worrying that garbage dumps are a privacy concern. Or smoke from a chimney are a privacy concern. Items that are discarded willingly are no longer private.

Right. Because someone will be able to determine anything useful about me from the aggregated shit of a million people. FFS.

No privacy risk at all. Divide the number of citizens by number of wastewater treatment plants and you quickly realize that this monitoring is only good for trends over very large groups. Sheesh. Do better.

Oh no, someone's gonna know how many people poop!

Absolutely ridiculous. Anonymous data could always be taken with ethics boards consent as long as nobody records any personally identifiable data, Data which is impossible to obtain with wastewater sampling 🙄

Wow! A 'two-fer' - budget cut AND Covid data eraser!

Just don’t flush anymore. Their your privacy is secured… 🤪

Privacy? They’re not exactly going to single anyone out from public sewage. It’s a measure of pathogens for a general public area..

Gotta get a new angle on an old topic - every day. Need copy to fill pages. Must be hard.

Next they will gather air samples and look for people that cough or sneeze.theres no expectation of privacy in public.

This is beyond ridiculous. Let me know when our names are found floating around in the waste water.

They’ll narrow down the source by inserting collection devices in certain neighborhoods and if positivity rates get high enough…

What utter BS! Do not let Ford take away our last chance of determining the amount of pathogen in our communities. Just like the Nazis keep 'em in the dark so they don't know how bad we're screwing you!

Contagious disease is everyone's concern. If we are not protected by public health measures and have to 'assess our own risks' we need data.

It's only a 'privacy' issue for crooked gov'ts who'd want to illegitimately keep 'private' important data on a pandemic the public deserves to know - but might embarrass gov'ts who want to hide pandemic info from the public that could expose the gov't as incompetent or reckless.

My poop can be traced?! 🤣😂😝 oh boy, let’s say this “news” is accurate, it has taken 26 months for CBC to tell us. Why now? You know, I am one of the opposing voices against defunding the but sometimes I am wondering what type of journalistic work is done in there🤯😳

Shakespeare might have had a solution in The Merchant of Venice 'First we murder the lawyers'. I'm not sure he meant that literally, but surely we need to curb their enthusiasm

Whoop-di-poop

Article summary: one man claims the slippery slope of a purely theoretical potential future case could be problematic. Maybe. Was this article worth publishing?

Privacy? If you are not ID-ed individually, there's NO privacy issue.A ridiculous non-issue.Worse than ridiculous,'cause it's such important public health data, it NEEDS to be collected. It's no more a privacy issue than are car counter cables on roads that count cars, ffs.

Boohoo...it's discarded who the hell cares. It'd be like people crying foul about others gaining access to their DNA of they grab their discarded drink cups. If people care so much about this, then hold on to your cup... or in this case pee for that matter!

Don't put your poop in the public domain then?

If someone is really that concerned about their shit, use a diaper or dig a hole… Beyond ridiculous…

This is a shit take

Privacy concerns my butt! If we don’t want our wastewater collected and tested, we don’t have to use the public sewer system. Poop in your backyard. They already share our aggregated anonymous medical data with researchers. This isn’t one bit worse.

Jeez - that is just craziness, and dangerous craziness at that.

Testing wastewater for a virus violates privacy how exactly? This article/headline is moronic.

Instead of covering the good this process has done, and how well it has served us, you are now raising the most outlandish reason to stop doing it? Your editors are monsters hiding behind the hapless stenographers you employ! You have become a joke, a cruel one!

Am I pooing out my personal identifying information in public washrooms This makes zero sense. Wastewater from an *area* isn’t going to identify individuals.

1. Please don't spread this harmful narrative. It's a way for them to prevent us from accessing data to show the true spread of SARS2. If I use the restroom at Costco, does anyone seriously think I have privacy concerns if wastewater data is collected? It's ridiculous.

Yah fuck that. Keep measuring.

They want to see how well the poison darts are working especially with the new pox version about to hit the 'vulnerable'. We see you.

Oh no, not enough tacos eaten on Tuesday's

This is dumb. Truly. Stop telling dumb points of view.

This is the shittiest take.

This is BS.

This is preposterous.

Looks like the fringe minority /pc are working at cbc ‘news’

these experts are not very smart.

Ridiculous!!!!!!

OK, this is just stupid.

Is it any wonder we’re at where we are when this nonsense is our ‘news’. This is beyond disturbing. Wtf

This is a “theoretical” risk as noted by one of the study authors. Completely reasonable risk vs real public health benefits.

Lets apply come critical thinking to this After you 💩 joins everyone else's 💩 in the waste water how is anyone going to trace it back to a single person and release any private data? Your personal info isn't attached to your 💩 Grow up

'privacy concerns' How are they going to distinguish whose poo is it? For Heaven's sake people!!!!!!

Not even close to realistic. Just straight up fear-mongering.

CBC experts… they do love study shit.

Beyond absurd.

'Some experts' is about as inaccurate as it gets. Who would say such a ludicrous thing? It's the only way we have left to track Covid. 'Some experts' paid by 'some politicians' don't want us to do that anymore.

This entire article is nonsense. The editor responsible for this tripe being published needs a refresher course in journalism.

This is a garbage article. Do better CBC.

5G can track your pee, CBC?

Ya like anyone can cross reference who’s shit belongs to whom… enough with this BS, PH and the politicians just don’t want you knowing they are full of it…

Everyone’s shit stinks. No one is that special.

Probably the same experts that keep babbling and bleating about climate change on the CBC .

Could not be more anonymous.

I don't see a problem. Sampling can't determine the person it came from. onpoli

These experts are more versed in bull caca than human caca.

Slow news day?

IT'S SHIT FFS! EVERYONES' SHIT! what you mean to say is this is another ford ploy to remove wastewater testing as well. Cmon we know how he thinks. Privacy concerns over shit - I call it B. S.! 🤬💩🤬💩🤬💩

I mean, if you're tapping someone private sewage bed, then sure. But otherwise...no. I wouldn't say it's private.

I wonder which party is paying these experts to push for hiding evidence of COVID?

This is insane.

you are guilty of spreading BS by your headline. That's all most people read. 'When we get a positive test, there's no way we know who it came from. You know, it's like saying, 'Oh, we have so many cars on the 401 today.' You have no idea who's driving those cars,'

This headline is literally💩. Can you trace back that Fred pooped at his mistress' house in Vaughan? No. A concern is using the data to stigmatize a neighbourhood instead using it to help - doing bad things with the data, which only 💩 people would do anyway.

What? It’s communal wastewater so it can’t be traced to anyone? Maybe do a story on Doug Ford making people pay for cancer screening bloodwork and other tests normally covered by OHIP.

Seriously Have you lost your mind It’s POOP 💩!! What privacy laws are being broken

FREEDOM FOR MY POOP! 🤦‍♀️

What a dumb take.

You're doing an excellent sales job for defunding. Your headline suggests an expectation of privacy from taking a dump in a PUBLIC toilet. Read it again and ask yourself if maybe you made a poor career choice. CdnMediaFailed

There's guaranteed anonymity so there's no issue

Would those experts be conservative? Because if they are it all makes sense 🤔

CBC vies to replace TheOnion and Mad Magazine as cultural satire touchpoint. Nice work

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I think the fact that the data is collected from public sources with no possible way to identify any individual, means there are no privacy concerns and individual consent is not required

With all due respect Steve Hrudey, a professor emeritus from the University of Alberta's department of laboratory medicine and pathology, give your head a shake man. 🤦‍♀️

Get back to us when someone has their credit card number stolen via poop.

Im sure we all give informed consent as we flush.

Oh ffs this is off the charts ludicrous.

It's literally poo. No one's identifiable info is being leaked. They better start wearing paper bags on their heads and throw away their geocaching phone to really protect their privacy.

This is the most ridiculous news line I read this morning. The Conservatives sabotaged pandemic test / track & public information, scientists had to test COVID19 by wastewater measurements. Personal violation? Gathering from public sources doesn’t violate private info. Come on.

after i flush it you can do what you want with it. trust me i dont want it back.

I don't write my name on my poop before I flush.

CC: CBCPitchbot

Experts in what? Because this sounds like nonsense.

The minute you flush, it’s not yours anymore

Too far gone now anyways. I can't wait for 12 am blood checkers to break into my home and feed me doughnuts after taking a pint of mon sans.

Report on real Problems...

Anonymous privacy?

well, then I guess each resident needs to have their own water treatment plant at their home. and portable water treatment plants for when a person uses a toilet away from home.

Not me. I keep all my poop and pee in an empty pool in my yard. For privacy.

You'd need to be quite an expert in BS to be able to identify individuals from wastewater samples

Is ColinDMello now working for This is his style of reporting 💩💩💩

cdnpoli In short they do not know what they are talking about , are not privacy experts, but like attention

When are you going to stop bullshitting news?

Any data obtained from these samples is completely useless. The tests are seriously flawed and tell us nothing about real illness.

I think it would be great to know which neighbourhoods are experiencing high case loads. What's the stigma?

Privacy?

How is this different from gathering evidence from someone's trash?

My daughter attends a university and they were monitoring the levels in the dorms. I don’t see it as an privacy issue as no specific students are identified but they could set their policies or inform students of risks with this crucial info /3

For example, as levels are getting quite low, I actually dined in a restaurant this week. I might even see a movie (masked). I still mask in stores but very soon, I will feel comfortable not wearing one. This information is crucial. /2

I have been monitoring the waste water information to assess the potential risk levels in my community as this is the only way since large scale pcr testing has been removed. I have based my behaviour on that information and have not caught COVID. /1

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As the article itself points out … poop is not a fingerprint. It’s no wonder people are anxious about every stink’in thing

I can’t help but comment, I wanna see the tools used to trace a sample back to its source, shit matters I guess.

They want the spice.

I keep all of my secrets in my wastewater

who gives a shit?

Free dumb for poop!

they’ve been studying it for years. CdnMediaFailed

Oh wow.. some experts? Like FB pathogen experts? Then those experts better make an app ( at their cost) to get people to sign waivers when they pee or take big poops !! Where would there limit be ..2 ozs or 12 litres ?

Why are you posting this kind of garbage?

What a ridiculous piece!

This seems like a stupid take. Wastewater that hundreds or thousands may contribute to doesn't violate anything.

People critiquing this aren't thinking how this sort of surveillance can target and discriminate against neighborhoods - specifically low income places. Privacy is a right that we are quickly losing on ALL fronts...when it is gone you'll never get it back.

Oh you mean the last data source we have to determine COVID risk and impact on the population? As far as I understand (from a waste water engineer) waste water signals have been collected forever.

You know who says this nonsense? The OntarioPCParty who have already been highly scrutinized for limiting access to COVID19 testing and it’s results.

Bullshit…waste water is no different than your trash.

Wastewater surveillance of pathogens at wastewater treatment plants do not carry ethical risk. I respectfully disagree with the take on misuse of wastewater pathogen surveillance in regards to being 'almost able to identify street addresses'. This is misleading at best (1/2)

Slow news day again

Oh FFS

Lemme guess, these 'experts' also want to pretend that we don't have a virus that causes waves of death and sickness every few months?

Ridiculous assertion.

The Supreme Court is about to hand down a ruling saying women have no right to privacy in their doctors offices. But somehow collecting wastewater to test is a violation of privacy?

Is the CBC now competing with TheOnion ?

Literally what

not nearly as bad of a privacy concern as the trackers on your website 🙄

oh, so they're mad we have accurate data they can't fudge.

“From public sources” without individual consent. Can we agree how insane this sounds.

There is no precedence that poop from a wastewater treatment process can equate to individual privacy rights. This it utter and absolute nonsense. cbc you can do better. Ask better qs! Why arent we testing adequately to begin with? COVID is not done with us.

😂😂Seriously?!

I promise to poop in the woods if you promise to continue wastewater testing. Deal?

'Some experts' affiliated with the Ontario Conservative government? I knew when wastewater became the only indicator of Covid that Dougie would find a way to stifle or discredit the wastewater data.

Good lord it's not like the turds have a return address stamped on them

That’s why they are called ‘public’…and individual names are not attached to your waste water 💦 or any other waste!

This is nonsense. Most of the article is fine, but the framing and headline stink like,well, you know.

It’s not like anyone can trace the results back to individuals, so there’s absolutely no privacy risk. Test all the poop!

Bullshit, Go away w/ this stupid article - who knows it my shit

What It’s 100,000’s of people excrement. Who’s gonna find out too much about specific people

That’s shitty!

Is this a joke?

Well, that's a pile of 💩. It's about the only data we have right now.

But…technically there’s always been the possibility of this! Is this an excuse to stop testing? Are the crazy, tinfoil hat-wearing loons going to start crapping in a hole in their backyards to avoid being “tracked”?

Didn't stop JT government from tracking people's cell phones. Authoritarian governments don't worry about these kinds of things.

This is how they will do away with the only proof we have covid in alive and well.

This is fairly absurd. There is a reasonable argument to be made where sewershed samples are collected that one must be careful about stigmatizing a neighbourhood. But this is quite different than a privacy concern, since it absolutely cannot be traced to an individual.

Next it will be raising similar concerns to monitoring air quality in a venue because people have been exhaling there and others may have seen them and are able to identify them.

Stupid tweet of the day!

Oh come on!!! That’s literally ridiculous. Fecal matter in waste water does not have privacy rights, nor can it be linked to individual citizens.

As someone else brilliantly put it, let's eliminate the last measure of COVID that we have. Are the 'some experts', politicians that want to keep us ignorant?

“Privacy concerns” Susan at 33 Main St had a loose BM on Saturday at 9pm - kind of private data 🤔

Really, you know what poop and urine belongs to who, you can identify the person. Get a grip on life and reality.

Good luck sorting through that shite. Humans don't deserve to be in charge. 🤦

Also have zero clue why everyone is all of a sudden so worried about this now when they should be much more worried about security on water treatment plants (husband used to work at dufferins Creek) anyone could get in there with anthrax and we would all be toast!

What...and who's...privacy is at risk? This is stupid

Covid will not exist if we do not test

Oh for goodness sake how you going to tell which individual toilet it exactly came from when it all ends up at the wastewater treatment plant?

FFS. Whose privacy is at risk? Absurd.

“Looks like we got ourselves a cheese-eater here, Harv.” “I knew it! Call in the airstrike!”

Can y’all just stop pooping into laminated self addressed envelopes?

Is this why that weirdo came to my door and asked me not to flush?

So ridiculous

... just not too long ago, wastewater tracking for drugs were done. Nobody barked like 'omg privacy invasion!'

This is an excuse to get rid of the waste water testing

WTF. Hahahaha, no.

How is this news CBC Now everyone’s💩is sacred? Please people, do not stop using your toilets!! Gawd, what next…

But I thought the PCs were the type of party that likes and wants brown-nosing!

And the Woke get Woker?

Get a composting toilet if you are so concerned for you poops privacy!

Lol, yes I shit in the public sewer, but that shit still belongs to me, dammit!

Because every turd is labeled with a nametag. 🙄

That technology is more likely to be used for chemical dumping/misuse. The way wastewater is currently being tested, the fear is ludicrous.

What a shitty idea- privacy for poo. What is the world coming go.

WTF is wrong with people

Why is anyone surprised anymore? It’s the exact same thing as when they tracked peoples cellphones in the name of Covid. We are in an unprecedented time of private data being stolen without expressed consent. By our own government non the less 🤦

This is a useless story. Such muckraking is unbecoming of the national broadcaster. Shameful

Count on CBC to air this shit. The mothership is lost.

These tenuous privacy concerns are greatly exaggerated. They defy logic. Stay in your lane, scientist. All we have left is wastewater surveillance. Of course benefits worth it. If ridiculous concerns like this are used as a reason to end these programs, Canadians should riot.

This article stinks to high heaven.

One wonders if this is the government wanting to hideour only source of Covid data info inthe community! Piss off if it is.

Who cares I don’t. Take a sample of my poop. Go for it.

Unless your poop has a name tag on it this is nonsense

Good grief

I’m fine with it.😏

CBCPitchbot they scooped you again!

All that wastewater all mixed together and some experts like who think privacy is an issue!! I think that's bull💩!

Prime example of when “experts” should shut the &$! up.

FREEDOM !

Y'all need me to sign a release or something?

Is this an effort afoot to now eliminate the very last way for people to assess community risk where governments are determined to hide covid infections from us?

Let’s not get ridiculous

Whatever experts you're talking about here should have their expert status revoked.

Only from — another one of their important updates!

Honestly… who gives a 💩

FFS! If you are worried? Shit in a bucket and bury it in your own backyard! Sheeesh, get a grip people!

Testing shit to find shit.

Putative experts, certified idiots.

This is ridiculous.

Well this is stupid. Are you fricken kidding me? How the hell will they learn anything personal about any single citizen from wastewater. Unreal. So damn stupid

I take a break from twitter for the weekend, and I come back to this 🤦🏼‍♀️ unless you have poop like the Gingerbread man, pretty sure they can't track you.

Oh but RosieBarton is cheerleading dougford while he is giving Galen Weston a monopoly of our Healthcare for funneling public funds for his corporate greed and will track our health record for Optimum points. Huge breech of privacy that FascistFord will allow! But no story!

Lol what?!

Scientists collecting poo water is the least of my privacy concerns

Now we have gatekeepers on our shit? Does PP know about this?

..What a bunch of Libertarian Bull$hit... Literally. In this case 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...'

I call BS on this. This does not even make sense. CdnMediaFailed

Some experts? Let me guess they are all running for the conservative leadership. CdnMediaFailed

Yea right. They just want to move on and act like Covid is over.

🙄 from wastewater that is publicly collected, contains and is not being used to trace people.

more low hanging fruit from tv media, get back to me when you grow a set snd get our privacy back from big tech, i guesse feces doesnt buy advertising

What experts?

With so many real concerns...you went with this literal sh!t?

😂😂😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭🙄🙄🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😳😒🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 FUNNIEST TWEET OF THE WEEKEND!!

Incredibly RIDICULOUS ARTICLE! 🙄😮‍💨🤭I am positive that my fecal matter doesn't have a micro-nano-tracker with my name on it!

'You can't test if there's pee in the pool because it could be mine and you might know then!' What. In the honest to goodness fucks. We're testing the waster water centres... Not people's fucking toilets. How you gonna identify waste carriers that fucking well.

boooo

Some experts are overreacting

This has seriously got to be the single stupidest thing ever to come out of

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So you are worried about them isolating and identifying your individual shit from a literal lake of shit?

Of all the data about me available on the internet, aggregate poop water data is low on my list of concerns

Does CBC think CSI is doing DNA testing on fecal matter at the wastewater facility?

The 'experts' are one guy in Alberta and a Dutch scientist who says it could lead to wastewater robot surveillance. 🤡

You poop into a public utility management system, your poop becomes the property of that system. Public health trumps it all.

CBCPitchbot, did you do this?

My shit, my choice….wait, that’s not right

This dribble will not help combat the calls to defund

Can they tell me why everything I eat turns to shit?

Shut up with your BS CBC - signed a lifelong CBC listener/viewer.

Another example of just because you have an opinion on something, doesn't mean you should share it.

That's very dumb. Anyone who thinks such samples could be tracked to certain individuals is crazy.

How is public sources individual sources exactly? Are these “experts” collecting samples from peoples toilets? On its face, this sounds like COVID denying BULL 💩

Are you sure they didn’t say “privy” concerns?

Oh FFS. That’s a load of crap pardon the pun. Who writes this horse hooey? Are these the “experts” who want us to believe that Covid is a myth. Get a grip CBC grow some nuts and tell ppl this is a crock of -*** if you are going to “report” it

Such absolute absurdity!!! Like waste left at the curb for collection, there is no longer a privacy expectation once you flush that toilet!🤷‍♂️ They are not collecting from each households discharge, but sampling from the mains!🤦🏻‍♂️

Another bullshit waste of time from the cbc

Are the same “experts” also COVID-minimizers who do not want this data to be reported? So they can perpetuate the lie that COVID is over?

Sht in a hole if you don't like it

Once you flush it, you have essentially given up possession and knowingly released it into the public domain. Privacy concerns have become irrational.

Steve Hrudey searches for relevance.

I guess those chips that were supposedly injected to us with the vaccines could be sending a signal back to the mother ship. Dear God tinfoil hats with propellers… you can’t make this “shit up”. 💩💩💩

It’s ok, you can have my shit.

Poop on the street or in the fields if your privacy is violated.. ffs

That is just plain stupid CBC. caj CBCAdrianH fatimabsyed While media congratulate themselves, the public rightfully think they are morons. JSchool_CU Media need to be self-regulating.

Once it’s waste, You lose privacy. There is no privacy once the garbage man dumps your garbage in the truck and once you flush the toilet it’s not yours.

Since when did anyone care about this. Federal government certainly didn’t care about privacy during COViD.

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There’s no privacy in waste. What “experts” were they supposedly talking to

What? I don't care what they find in my wastewater. Privacy,honest to goodness. Just try to stop the friggen covid

This is nonsense. We must not hamstring public health based on ridiculous fear mongering.

Just dumb.....ffs if it helps .....just ridiculous

If they are collecting from my bathroom, or the sewer pipe that's on my property, maybe. A public system? Please. Are we going to say that searching the landfill sites lso invades my privacy?

Ok… make sure to disclose and label “s…t” properly so privacy can remain intact.

If something from the health dept ever knocks on my door and tells me “you know, we’re a little concerned about your poop” I promise I’ll join the protest as soon as I’m done laughing.

The is BS... talk about aggregate data!!

How could this be tracked back to an individual? If it can’t, it’s not a privacy concern.

And here comes the ruling class push to eliminate one of the last tools of covid monitoring we have left.

Yesssss, someone testing my anonymous sewer entries in TODAY’S world is what I’m really worried about. 🙄

FFS enough of this privacy stupidity!

What a pile of BS. Pardon me😂

This is a stupid story. There's no privacy in sewage.

The entire wastewater crap just proves how safe covid is We all had it It’s over

I heard from an alternative source that these experts were not vetted or fact checked prior to cautioning us. Do better CBC.

So Canadian. Let’s not hurt someone’s feeling!

What about us that eat sensitive and confidential documents as a quick, secure means of disposal? All it takes is the right turd in the wrong hands and BAM. They hack my bank account.

It’s literally waste water! What privacy rights do I expect to hold when I flush?

I would think that this is similar to the garbage - once it has been collected by truck it’s legal to look through.

People put everything on social media. Privacy is an illusion. Privacy no longer exists.

There is the woe is me cbc story of the day. Privacy in wastewater samples. Unless the samples are taken at the end of someone’s pipe before it hits the street you won’t know what house it came from.

🙄 Dear Ottawa Public Health - I hereby give my informed consent for you and your sgents to test my samples in public wastewater. OttawaHealth

hard hitting journalism here

Have some common sense please.

WTF?

How Canadian. We have a wannabe leader talking about abolishing our central bank, ignorant members of the population wanting to hang the PM, but poop privacy is worth getting our knickers in a twist on?

Really DNA also private health concerns

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today. And twitter has some really dumb stuff.

Privacy? That's quite a stretch.

Shut up. Privacy concerns. Some one taking samples of waste water to see if a community is sick and people are worried about privacy. Give me a break. Feel sorry for the people who are doing the work.

Mind officially blown. I finally realize why one of my favorite CBC shows (THIS IS THAT) got cancelled… real “news” is more of a spoof these days than any writer could ever imagine up…

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How is this a story? Are you that desperate for content? OMG. Big brother is looking at my unidentifiable pooh. Oh the humanity.

Good grief, its totally anonymous data and it's basically the only data we have left. What's next, claiming that pollution monitoring violates the privacy of fossil fuel companies?

If paying your water/wastewater service bill is consent enough for the city to collect it, then it should be implied that testing is also allowed. This is the most ridiculous title I’ve read this week…looking for problems where there are none.

Gathered from public sources.

This system works, privacy issue my foot.

This is the most stupid thing I've read today.

Everyone knows that poop has barcodes … 😂🤡😂

It's just a matter of time when garbage collection will also be privacy and ethics issue.

It’s a public utility. Like garbage pickup.

What a privacy fecal waste of time

Cbc's storys are mostly sewage.

Ok this is going a bit too far on privacy issues ! Especially since it will help find out where COVID is prominent as MOST DON’T seem to care anymore walking around like it never existed NO MASKS 😷🤬 So around & around & around we go! Don’t know about you but I am FED Up but😷UP

That’s a shit take 💩

I'm more concerned about the government tracking our cell phones, as far as my turds go, I'm all for it. They should taste it while they're at it...let me know if I need more Fibre in my diet.

But it's ok when you push Arrivecan....

So the gov is collecting Shit now!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣To funny

Well now that just sound ridiculous

How?

The 'experts'again!

Check that poo

IF they were to sample at individual homes they could identify individuals. But nobody outside of China is doing, or even proposing, such a thing. An absolutely bonkers 'what if' that could impede a useful tool. Fine, pass a law against sampling below a certain pop size. Move on.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard

Suing for poop usage. Is that how much people are financially struggling today?

Some experts caution that counting votes after the polls close could compromise the secrecy of the ballot for individual voters…

What comes out of my hole belongs to me. Pay me for my poo.

If the government can track me down by finding my DNA in the tons of shit that flows through there every day, then I'm impressed. Why aren't we finding more criminals this way?

Let me take one guess as to who is complaining.... conservatives....

It’s anonymous data. If you are still concerned, you can always hide your shit.

What a waste of money.

It would not surprise me at all if Doug put the rights of literal shit above the wellbeing of workers. Someone needs to make those breakfast sandwiches.

That’s a load of BS…!

I guess the data is anonymous enough

This doesnt make any sense. You can’t identify individuals from a mass sample. Maybe report on long covid, the fact that we dont know about the effects of repeat infections. Give people the info they need to protect themselves.

Getting more and more stupid by the day

Stop this BS

Waste of time and money frying to make all this real. It's all a fake attempt to keep Canada locked down.

If they are coming into my home to swab my anus personally without permission, then it is a violation of my privacy. If they are collecting wastewater from public sources... they can do what they like with it. Who honestly cares? It's the main sewer ffs.

One of the most foolish headlines I've ever seen who is approving this garbage?

Privacy concerns in wastewater...are you serious Is Sunday a slow news day? Why would anyone be concerned?

All right, we’re do I get a release to sign, giving you someone permission to dip into a sewer in my town, a take a sample of excrement, potentially mine, that is mixed in with thousands of other peoples excrement?

Having a non invasive way to determine disease spread which in other places has health workers at checkpoints shoving swabs up people’s nose is good actually

This has to be one of the biggest shitposts I have ever seen. Seriously, get real people.

My phone is always listening to me, so I couldn't give a shit how the city wants to test my 1's and 2's

When you flush wastewater into a public sewer system, it is no longer yours. By pressing 'flush', you have clicked consent and waived any individual expectation of privacy.

You really have to get over this privacy” shit”!!!

But it’s ok for everyone to know your vaccination status. Experts say don’t listen to the experts who got us to this mess.

Another CBC masterpiece.

It is a PUBLIC health examination to track amounts of COVID-19 in waste water. For the greater good of the PUBLIC. Carry on, I say!

🐍 venom. WATCHTHEWATER

I will flush a consent form along with my poops 💩

Often the privacy mantra is an excuse to do nothing. This is one of the more outrageous excuses. Just dumb

Yes cause dipping into a sewer main is going to tell you so much about individuals

Oh for shit sakes

nothing is private anymore....

Ffs, if running your fingers through my poop is going to help track cv19, power to ya.

JFC, people need to calm down.

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