Latest call for herd immunity draws scorn from public health experts

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Lift lockdowns, build herd immunity? Public health experts say that's dangerous

The World Health Organization and most major nations' public health leaders have said that a combination of individual prevention, widespread testing and contact tracing, and harsher lockdown-like measures when and where community spread is rampant make for a better approach to combating COVID-19 than letting the virus run rampant in an attempt to build up mass immunity.

As of Thursday morning, it had received just under 130,000 signatures. This includes nearly 8,000 signatures claiming to be from "medical professionals" and more than 4,300 claiming to be from "medical and public health scientists," although anyone signing the declaration is able to assert that they fit into either of those categories.The declaration has also been endorsed on Twitter by conservative politicians in the U.S. and the U.K.

Michael Head, a senior research fellow in global health at the University of Southampton in the U.K., said in a statement that the declaration only makes sense as an argument against full lockdowns that last until a vaccine is ready – something that is not currently in place or being proposed anywhere.

 

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“Another day, another WHO debacle. The “public health experts” have failed us yet again.”

With the rate at which Health Canada moves will likely get herd immunity. Even if theres vaccine. Trudeau has shown to be one of the worst leaders at getting Canadians anything. Big government very little in reaults theres a problem!

I’m sick of the social media idiots who have ZERO knowledge in healthcare arguing for something they know little about. 🙄the death of expertise. Being a medical professional in these times is depressing.

How about we listen to some alternatives, because we're not doing so hot with our current strategy.

I hope so because I can't wear a mask eight hours a day while doing manual labour.

Doctors are the experts not the politicians. Stop the fear propaganda, the media should be held accountable along with the politicians who have ruined the economy and whatever was left of people’s mental health. The numbers don’t justify the lockdown.

Because what public health 'experts' are suggesting is working out so well

Didn't lock down, didn't screw everything up

What herd immunity looks like vs the stupid BS we’ve been trying here.

Of course. Why would the 'experts' want ppl to be immune before they can rake in the cash on vaccines and other ongoing paraphernalia? Haha

It’s so easy for young healthy people to say they want heard immunity. Everyone has loved ones that won’t survive it. There may even be children that won’t survive it. I don’t want it on my conscience.

It’s already been proved there’s no long term immunity to this

You can always find an expert to support your POV, but the entire county of Sweden is testament to the ridiculousness and pointlessness of lockdowns.

Public health experts have been wrong .... About everything

'Public health experts' 😀😃🤥Is your reporting payback for JT's media bailout? Anyone with some common sense knows that all MSM does is try to reinforce government's political agenda.

Public health 'experts ' aren't offering any better solutions sweden got it right

Doctors from around the world are calling for an end to the lockdowns. you will have to start a new campaign of fear regarding something else.

So sick of weak, entitled, flat earthers costing me everything from concerts to family gatherings because a mask fogs up their glasses

This thing called an immune system worked before Covid19. Why not now? Experts, what experts? The same ones that told you mask wearing 6 months ago was ineffective? Now they are saying mask up? N95 mask is effective to 0.3 microns. The virus is 0.125 microns. This experts?

‘Expert’ = paid off shills of the Elites

Those calling for herd immunity are also experts—all 6,000 of them.

which 'experts'? not the ones in sweden

It's crazy, slavery turned me into a human cyborg. Genetic selection on display. Now everyone wants it This is survival of the fittest at work. Now y'all know how it feels

At the end of the day, it's Darwinism aka survival of the fittest. This is why Black People are so athletic. When ish like this comes the herd gets thinned and then there is a birth explosion after. History is on the side of my point

These people are uneducated Covidiots and should all recieve fines. If we had masks during the Black Death when it was Asymptomatic we would see idiots like this. Only smart people listen to the Researchers.

Sweden has proven it isn’t dangerous. Sweden

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The more selfish people who don't wear masks or social distance the longer things remain closed and spread continues?

Why is it that Sweden achieved Herd Immunity? No masks, no social distancing and no lock downs? They used their real time data instead of a Imperial college computer modelling system. Let that sink in!

While I agree with building herd immunity is dangerous, I think lockdowns are even more dangerous both short and long term in terms of injuries, mental health issues, and fatalaties.

Isn’t “herd” immunity formed from vaccinations? And who doesn’t want vaccine? Anti maskers anti Vaxers.

Without a vaccine, this is how we will eventually end this virus and I am betting herd immunity comes before a vaccine.

The same health experts reaping the rewards of unchecked government spending? I wish we had a government that worked for the people instead of themselves.

.... the under 40's can (and are already) doing it with little 'fatal' issue. The infection rate means nothing to them. We just need to maintain 'iron clad' behaviors around our elderly population

But only the public health officials you ask, as if they are a monolith. People might be interested there are other learned opinions which go against the govt line. Never any balance of opinion in your broadcasts, tho. It’s the party line all the time. So boringly predictable.

LIFT LOCKDOWNS NOW! CANADIANS ARE NOT YOUR TEST SUBJECTS! LOCKING DOWN A SOCIETY HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE! THE EFFECTS FOF THIS EXPERIMENT WILL BE FELT FOR DECADES

Not as dangerous as CTV 'news' fear mongering and idiotic lockdown restrictions

And they said masks don't work, they dont mention vitamin D. Fuck the experts.

No kidding! Let’s kill some to build immunity for a virus no one’s body has EVER seen before 😬 ListenToPublicHealth

Remember when experts said thalidomide was safe?

Close down already you're irrelevant

Shame on you facists

Hahaha..’experts’ The same idiots saying my DIY nose diaper made from my favorite scooby doo pyjamas is saving humanity.

No it's not. These restrictions are far more dangerous to this country. That's a fact. You may quote me as a 'expert' on this one .

Did Darwin have thoughts along these lines as well? 'Survival of the fittest and the rest shall perish?' In terms of corporate, investor and federal profit abilities,it's a strong argument, but in terms of humanity and caring of others, perhaps a completely different conclusion.

What's dangerous, it's medias that don't make their job to adequately question the government on that crisis.

Who trusts our public health 'experts'? Losers like Tam and Hajdu have lost all credibility long ago.

Not dangerous,,,suicide by Covid!,,& the nieve fools will be the first!

Have we become as stupid as the Americans? I see our numbers are headed in the wrong direction. I'm so happy to live in the Atlantic Bubble. I'm able to do pretty much what I want with precautions. I am alive and healthy and I intend to stay that way, but you people carry on.

“Experts”....usually best to do the opposite of whatever they’re touting.

Stop your fear mongering CTV.

Yeah but brianlilley and the Toronto Sun think it's awesome!

“..more eminent than the ones advising the Govt...”

2 million ppl die in the US each year from all causes. Out of that 200,000 (ie. 10%) may have died from Covid esp. if they were 70+ with a lot of comorbidities. You can't lockdown everyone for 0.2% covid fatality rate and kill young ppl bc of economic collapse.

We haven't been locked down for months...

Oh right.The public health officials...Why dont you guys just unplug your garbage network again...Like forever

Canada says bullshit.

Except for the several thousand public health experts who are banding together to end the lock downs. Right? Sort yourself out CTV. Total trash, all your employees should quit.

Mendacity

Leaving your house has always been dangerous. The Canadian news media is now dangerous. You are gaslighting

Seriously, where do these people want to go that they can't already go? Sports, a strip club, a bar, a movie? I think that they might just scrape through this terrible hardship. These folks are so fragile. Maybe try reading a book.

The 'Experts' are just hard left hacks bent on instilling fear in the people. The government needs a fearful population in order to take total control. It is beyond obvious at this point.

you can’t be trusted to provide all facts. Here is the visual for Sweden deaths per mil since the begins & new deaths. Sweden’s R appears to be near 0.89. If you had an credibility you’d have mentioned colatoral damage & deaths due to lockdowns.

What are these people so desperate to do? Lockdowns? That's pretty dramatic. Someone let these folks know that they are allowed to leave the house, and most things are totally open. I'm not endangering my parents so that these people can go to a strip club.

What's dangerous is trying to prevent every single death in some sort of outrageous government collectivism experiment ... at the cost of everything else we hold dear in our society.

Highway speeds are dangerous.

Vaccines are herd immunity.. the same people pushing this economic destruction and oppression.. will be screaming about the decades of 'austerity' that is coming

The ones who say that are idiots who will kill far more than covid in the long run.

Anyone with any common sence at all knows this

Keep lockdowns, open schools, same result but with more government control.

That will kill ppl like me

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