Victoria in 'uncharted waters', urged to trace contacts of contacts

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Victoria has been urged to adopt a NSW-style contact tracing technique to help meet its ambitious targets for the easing of restrictions. covid19 coronavirus springst contacttracing

Sydney Morning Herald, to quickly limit the spread of the virus in incidents such as the Chadstone outbreak.

"I'm a strong believer that you do a rapid response and go to contacts of contacts. You ask them all to stay in quarantine until you know it's safe," Professor Bennett said. But Professor Bennett also said Victoria's targets of a 14-day average of five cases a day, plus five or fewer mystery case in the preceding fortnight, were unnecessarily ambitious.

“I think we’re leading the way [globally]. We came into the second wave earlier than most of Europe, so we’ve had to face the reality of the second wave earlier. "The problem is there's only a couple of months before we get into Christmas and New Year season, where there will be gatherings and increased risk of community transmission. I think it's really important Victoria can go into the holiday season with confidence."

 

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Victorian Doctor went to NSW and what they found nothing different than what Victorian Doctors were doing. In NSW everything is hidden, when traces of corona virus was found in water waist NSW gov did not investigate and traced like Vic gov does.

Why haven’t we?

To much commonsense for Andrew's and as they say you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.He only has to look at their results, results which put vic to shame.

WHY IN THE F ARE THEY NOT DOING THIS THE PIG HEADEDNESS OF IT ALL!!!!!!

alanjbetts6 I don’t know why this has taken so long

Idiots....

Wanker COVID19Victoria

Apparently Victorians have a very similar system according to the chairman!!! BS no doubt!!

Is this true

Karonleahely NO remember, we went to NSW to teach them how to Contact Trace. We didn't learn anything.

Dan and Sutton

it is now getting crazy, they have no contact tracing capability. why can't they outsource it to NSW?

We don't contact contacts. I see problem now. Run by f wits and arse coverers. It looks good on paper? F wits couldn't run a meat raffle

Which is what?

The ppl running Victoria are incompetent, give them whatever system you like and they will still fail.

I thought it had already

Sounds as if NSW style is much more competent. No surprises there

Contract tracing requires citizens to do the right thing and quarantine when asked/requested to. This is obviously much harder than Bennett admits. While in theory it all sounds great the practice is totally dependent on compliance.

I thought they were trained by nsw why aren’t they using it already incompetent

Oh god am I the only one who thought we were already doing this? Wasn’t that the whole idea for the road trip a few months back.

That will anger Dan's mates at the CFMEU

stirring the pot. The media keeps finding one here and there that thinks they know it all. We are happy how we’re going. Just tell the COVIDIOTS To follow the rules it ain’t that hard.

Just do it.

Why can’t that state get their act together? They’re like another country. Shamed Australia with their numbers.

VicGovAu has been urged to adopt this successful system many times since stage 4 lockdown commenced but they still refuse. I can't see them suddenly taking this approach less than 14 days away from the next step out of lockdown.

If only there was some sort of government app that would allow for easier tracing 🤔

I actually can’t believe they’re not currently doing this!! Pure common sense. Please can we see results due to the government, not due to lockdown, like NSW! Please adopt a similar encouragement of getting tested, to contacting people!! DanielAndrewsMP

How about all people at risk stay home isolate and the rest of us can go about our lives?

What about common sense technique lol

More lies. Sutton said we already do it

Can you believe it?

Still ignoring the benchmark system? Pigheaded Drongo Dan & VIC health under the lazy little CHO Sutton, who doesn’t ever do anything other than go on about all these frighteningly complex mystery cases which may or may not be in an area that could be near you, etc.

This has nothing to do with anyone doing the right or wrong thing. Lockdowns don’t stop a virus, it’s about tracing the contacts and stopping it spreading on a localised level.Sutton is a goose and needs to go.

Why wouldn’t we have a national standard approach to contract tracing.

I am at a loss to know why our Medical Team have not consulted with Taiwan who have an extremely low death and infection rate.

Absolutely useless Victorian Government- not one brain between any of them

Can’t help think. When our second wave exploded and we were getting hundreds per day. NSW managed to keep their numbers below 20 and now almost eradicated. I REALLY would like their help. Please help us 🙏🏼

When you say NSW-style do you mean one that works?

bill_dobell You might want to urge Victorians that the incompetence cannot be tolerated any longer. There will be very little left if there is no change

They already contact trace contacts of contacts in high risk sectors. You guys are clearly behind on the news

Please listen to the NSW advice. They do this better.

We're not gonna hit the target. Rolling average, so unless we start hitting those numbers asap i.e. like now. So forget restrictions being lifted I've lost hope lol

Can’t believe we are still talking about this! Learn from NSW fast as Victoria obviously has an inferior contact tracing system. We have been in lockdown longer than Wuhan! How incompetent is this state government?

If Captain Cooke had been sailing in these “uncharted waters” in Victoria ....... My Guess Port Phillip Bay would have been called The Sea of Stupidity or What The Fuck Daniel Bay

This is getting tiring. I remember Dan the Man saying he/they went to NSW and shared info and that it was the Vic’s who shared some of their amazing tech with NSW - when it’s ours that’s not working 🤦‍♂️. Seriously... it’s been 6 months and we’re no closer.

I think give it a bit longer and wait to see how the FAX strategy works out....? DanielAndrewsMP

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How has this not been done already?!!! Dead set amateur hour 🤦🏻‍♂️

OMG! Do you think! For gods sake of course they need to use the NSW tracing, but we already know that arrogant Andrews will wipe that aside !

Jesus, this shit DanielAndrewsMP government isn’t just asleep at they wheel, they’re in a coma. Lift your game. You idiots caused this second wave and your incompetence has killed over 800 people.

Maybe it’s not just about calling positive cases and close contacts, maybe they also need to advise their workplaces that they are positive and can’t work? Maybe their msg’ing needs to go from “if you feel sick” to “if you have been at (x) you must self isolate and get tested” 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hang on. Let's first set up a bipartisan committee to investigate if it is worth setting up another bipartisan committee to recommend investigating NSW techniques.

More sensationalist headlines Perhaps listen to what Brett Sutton actually said

Yes please, it cannot be left to these fools for too much longer

This is inaccurate reporting of what was stated at the presser. You keep doing this . What’s your agenda?

Maybe the lockdown & mask wearing strategies aren’t working we are hardest hit and hardest hit!! Makes no sense to me ... I also think that wearing masks (which look like nappies) make people more complacent!!nomandatorymasks endlockdowns remove5km

It’s October and no other state has had the problems Victoria has had. Not even close. From deaths, infections, injured HCWs, bungles, unemployment and extended lockdowns. Blame whoever or whatever you want, but you can’t change that fact. A drunk monkey could do better!😔

Enough with the BS at the Age,this is a furphy,we don't need to go to NSW style contact tracing it is not gold standard. So much for a new editor, stick this where the sun don't shine!!!

The excuse “dealing with such large families” is not good enough Increase Staff in Contract Tracing Teams - Maybe put some of the fully paid“Standby Airline Staff” onto contact tracing - they know how to speak to people and some ground staff have call centre experience

I’d be nervous. I know we were overwhelmed but NSW not tested.

Haven’t I read this before? Recycling old headlines when they had zero effect the first time round.

Any regional Victorians had a gut full of Melbourne doing the wrong thing. FFS just wait a couple of weeks. You lot caused this dam dram to escalate.

Stop the bullsheet and end lockdown now

How about ya just lockdown aged care and then the rest of us are at 4.9 rolling average. Simple. Out of lockdown. Back to normal.

I thought it already had!!! Didnt they send some public servants up to Sydney to learn about it all?

Not so much “unchartered waters” as having captain Dan (on nearly 500K) who is more interested in own power trip than anything else. Surrounded by a bunch of bureaucratic nincompoops. Victoria is doomed.

Of course Sutton and Dictator Dan will not copy NSW. Their egos and arrogance will not allow them to admit that they are wrong.

What have these muppets been doing for the last 6 months? This is an absolute disgrace.

Why so many months later have DanielAndrewsMP & VicGovDHHS not learnt that their methods do not work. We need not to compare to overseas, but NSW who have succeeded. It’s time for better management and a new team to take over, Victoria risks lockdown until we do and Dan resigns

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Seriously The age. You are out of touch

7 months on and still stuff up after stuff up...........what's going on?

You are like a broken record stuck on 'pick on Dan', its so feckin tedious, get a new song to sing already!!

We need to avg 3.8 over the next 12 days to meet this target, which would be tough to achieve with a competent DHHS. Unfortunately for Victorians our tracing system is as effective as a bunch of retards trying to fuk a doorknob. SackDanAndrews

Wait.... they don't do that already? These blokes are taking the piss now.

But the arrogant premier “won’t be lectured to”. Can’t believe we have such ignorant people running the state’s government. Oh wait a minute, it’s Labor. Of course

Can’t we just give Dan and his dumbos a few million to fark off and get in some competent folks to take over

Haha it’s October 2020 and we still haven’t sorted this out..

But NSW was going to copy Victoria’s standard for tracing!!!! Isn’t that what Andrews said?

Says who ... throw out the dodgy Chinese tests

Did NSW health department use that tracing technique when they let those poor people off the Ruby Princess ?

Yep one that works would be nice 6 months into COVID-19

why oh why oh why are we still waiting for this - MONTHS later.

As numbers drop, this is highly feasible to do. As we unlock it may become more important.

How about every Victorian does the right thing? That's the inherent issue here. We will be in and out of lockdown until people start following the rules. So simple but just too hard for the minority who keep pushing the boundaries.

Such a sad day. VictorianCHO Sutton looked very lost today. Couldn’t answer basic questions. Nice bloke out of his depth sadly for all Victorians.

Since being sold to Costello’s 9Entertainment, TheAge has held LNP fundraises & has been filling it’s ranks with Murdoch hacks. Ditch your sub & follow truly independent media not Costello’s hacks. auspol

How are we not doing this already...

I thought Dan said nothing significant was learned from the NSW visit - and he reckons we showed them some things? 😂

Is there anything your tame epidemiologist won't say to support your agenda?

Hang on, Dan confirmed the other day he’d be teaching them and they’d be learning from the way the Vics are doing it? Why would he adopt a system as bad as that. Doesn’t make sense to me.

But that would mean that Dan and his Labor crooks would have to admit a mistake of catastrophic proportions.

Absolutely! They should be advising EVERYONE and ANYONE connected to an outbreak in any way, to isolate and get tested!!

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